That is the opposite of what I was suggesting. If the engine mounts are a significant part of the cost, then maybe some people would not want them.

 

Yeah, you're right. with the engine mounts and everything 2000 makes more sense.

However.

I would recomend that you and Rylan hold off on that mod for a while.


Some racing organizations don't allow dry sumps..............


dk

 

Why would a racing org not allow dry sumps? That wouldn't make any sense.

 

Why does the SCCA allow shock and swaybar replacement in a "stock" class? Doesn't make any sense either but racing organizations are free to do what they please.

 

yeah Karner which classes don't allow dry sumps? Besides "stock" classes of course.

They don't really offer any performance advantage themselves. Just increased reliablity.

 

Hmmmm......


The classes that I'm interested in personally don't allow them.

Don't ask me.


I'm trying to keep you from doing a mod that would keep you from racing with us.

That's all.


Racing organizations are weid sometimes.


I'm working on a mod that puts baffle doors in a stock oil pan.


Would any of you be interested?

 

It also seems like a dry sump couild be considered a safety feature. Doesn't SCCA allow roll cages in stock classes?

 

Not the best way to look at it. By extension, if I'm making steering inputs that require 1.5gs to stay on track, then slicks would be safer, as I'd be less likely to go off.

 

As stated before, the dry sump is not a performance benefit (unlike your example). I could understand the racing org not allowing the engine to be lowered, but it wouldn't make any sense for them to ban a reliability item. That would be like them banning synthetic oil. If anything, the dry sump will probably be a slight disadvantage from a performance standpoint (considerably more weight). The only performance advantage would be the lowered engine (which isn't necessarily required for the dry sump).

Are oil coolers banned by any racing orgs?

 

Decreasing crank windage can be a big performance advantage. Additional oil quantity and/or cooling capacity in cars where heat buildup is an issue is also an advantage.

Dry sump isn't legal in SCCA Solo2's Stock or Street Prepared classes, and I'm not sure it's even legal in Prepared. It's not legal in Honda-Challenge either, as Karner implies.

There are plenty of mods that could be considered "reliability" mods that aren't allowed (rubber hose replacement on RX7-TT for example) because it leads to a slippery slope of what is done for reliability vs. performance.

Karner, King and Spoon both have pans out for the car, and I think Erik Messley (EMI) custom-did one for Paul Mumford's S2000. Their designs might provide some good ideas in how to build yours...