Are Fortune Auto coilovers "legit?"
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#32
For NASA TT and stuff if you're worried about points I think the AST 4100 is the way to go for single adjustable shocks. I had a set on my old s2000 briefly and loved everything about them. Can't go wrong with the V3s though.
#34
Yes it was. I was running kumho ecsta xs tires on the camry. I never got proper tires for the 944. I never really got in to that car... everything broke on it. I did have a chance to play around with the damping and have a bit of fun though!
I tested the fortunes at thunderhill on the 14th. They worked great. A passenger commented "it doesn't even feel like there are springs in your car, it just absorbs things". I was not as enthusiastic about them as my passenger. However, for the price of the coilovers, I just don't care. I'm not going to go out and tell people to buy them. Just do your own thing.
#35
I realize that I'm probably asking to be spoon fed, but if anyone is feeling generous, it would be really helpful for me to understand where the problem points are in the 510's shock dyno. I've read enough about shock dynos to understand the information I'm looking at, but not what is considered "bad." I tried to find shock dyno test results for motons, kw's, or ohlins so I could compare, but I didn't have much luck.
Fortune Auto 510
By the way, thanks for being so helpful so far. This thread has turned out much better than the one that murderedrsx linked to.
Fortune Auto 510
By the way, thanks for being so helpful so far. This thread has turned out much better than the one that murderedrsx linked to.
One thing I did noticed was more "bounce" over certain areas on the track, the was most evident after hitting the "turtle" at apex. The car would take a few "hops" to settle down. At the advice of Fortune, I have incrementally increased the rebound to full hard. I now run it full stiff (rebound) all around. This does seem to help settle the bounciness more. I still need some more seat time to assess whether this is ideal. I did notice fellow s2k with KW v3, Moton ClubSport, Penske, etc did not have this "bounce" tendency over the same portion of the track. I am not sure if the lack of compression valving/adjustment have led to this tendency? I have also been told by track side observers, the bounciness is evident. The feeling while driving is the rear seems to be bouncing more than the front. I have tried various settings over the past few months and have settled on full stiff front eibach sway bar, full soft rear eibach sway bar. In addition, I recently installed a 4-point rear sub frame brace which seems to have helped. I am considering trying less spring in the rear (i.e. 11kg/mm) as the next step. Any thoughts? After reading this post, I am now wondering if there is too little compression valving built in? Since it is single adjustment for rebound only, I would need Fortune to completely re-valve. I am not sure if reducing rear spring would help that much....
Aside from this, I would say they perform very well. The product is top notch and I am enjoying them very much on the track. For the money paid, custom valving option and service from Fortune, I am very happy. I don't have any quantifiable results (i.e. lap times, etc) to back up the fact they perform well. There are other s2k drivers (who have driven my car on the track) who can attest to this. I do plan to get a lap timer in the future to help me analyze what small adjustments will do.
I hope this helps and any feedback would be appreciated.
P.S. I have been told by Fortune the shock valve graph above is for a race tuned honda civic (not s2k). My valving (for the 13kg/mm spring) is more like ~200 lbs of low speed force at ~1.0in/sec
#36
I just installed the FA 510 v4's yesterday. 10k frontv9k rear. What a mistake on rates. I'm hoping a return for revamp will be fast and adequate.
I'm going to go 12f 11r and have some custom valving. I'm def not a pro when it comes to terminology but I need more grounding. Car feels bouncy in the rear at certain spots on the parkways. I like my 70mph-100 but I need to be planted. I cannot give an accurate review but I will be taking the set off after only two days on and I hope fortune will keep me a satisfied customer.
I'm going to go 12f 11r and have some custom valving. I'm def not a pro when it comes to terminology but I need more grounding. Car feels bouncy in the rear at certain spots on the parkways. I like my 70mph-100 but I need to be planted. I cannot give an accurate review but I will be taking the set off after only two days on and I hope fortune will keep me a satisfied customer.
#37
I just installed the FA 510 v4's yesterday. 10k frontv9k rear. What a mistake on rates. I'm hoping a return for revamp will be fast and adequate.
I'm going to go 12f 11r and have some custom valving. I'm def not a pro when it comes to terminology but I need more grounding. Car feels bouncy in the rear at certain spots on the parkways. I like my 70mph-100 but I need to be planted. I cannot give an accurate review but I will be taking the set off after only two days on and I hope fortune will keep me a satisfied customer.
I'm going to go 12f 11r and have some custom valving. I'm def not a pro when it comes to terminology but I need more grounding. Car feels bouncy in the rear at certain spots on the parkways. I like my 70mph-100 but I need to be planted. I cannot give an accurate review but I will be taking the set off after only two days on and I hope fortune will keep me a satisfied customer.
#38
I have 10k/10k fortunes, and I have a bouncy problem also, certain bumps give me a quick but very unsettling pogo effect. Turning up or down the dampers will harden or soften the feel of the pogo, but the existence of the bouncing itself never goes away, no matter what Ive done.
#39
Originally Posted by jst2878' timestamp='1348975969' post='22047190
I just installed the FA 510 v4's yesterday. 10k frontv9k rear. What a mistake on rates. I'm hoping a return for revamp will be fast and adequate.
I'm going to go 12f 11r and have some custom valving. I'm def not a pro when it comes to terminology but I need more grounding. Car feels bouncy in the rear at certain spots on the parkways. I like my 70mph-100 but I need to be planted. I cannot give an accurate review but I will be taking the set off after only two days on and I hope fortune will keep me a satisfied customer.
I'm going to go 12f 11r and have some custom valving. I'm def not a pro when it comes to terminology but I need more grounding. Car feels bouncy in the rear at certain spots on the parkways. I like my 70mph-100 but I need to be planted. I cannot give an accurate review but I will be taking the set off after only two days on and I hope fortune will keep me a satisfied customer.
#40
I have 10k/10k fortunes, and I have a bouncy problem also, certain bumps give me a quick but very unsettling pogo effect. Turning up or down the dampers will harden or soften the feel of the pogo, but the existence of the bouncing itself never goes away, no matter what Ive done.
I'm just pissed I have to take them off, send them back, install stocks, get revamped set back in a few weeks, take off stocks, and then install the 510s again.
Aaaaaaaahhhhhhhh!