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Old Sep 22, 2009 | 09:11 PM
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Originally Posted by vstypicals,Sep 21 2009, 11:52 AM
First of all, I'm a track noob. I've done a couple of track days at SOW, but that's it. I'm looking to improve my setup. The car was originally a street daily driven car, but I've decided to make it a 75% track, 25% street car.

At the last track day, I noticed a lot of body roll from the car and mushy brakes. I'm assuming the body roll is because of the soft spring rates of my PSS9 coilovers. I'm looking to replace the coilovers with either just springs or a new set of track coilovers, and upgrade my brake pads and lines.

Here is my current setup:

- 03 S2000
- Greddy Ti-C single exhaust, Berk HFC, K&N drop-in
- OEM hardtop
- PSS9 coilovers
- GTC-200 wing
- 17x9.0 +63 CE28
- 255/40/17 NT05
- Project MU b-force brake pads all-around
- ATE blue fluid
- Whiteline x-brace
- 00-01 front sway bar
- AP2 (07) rear sway bar
- Megan BSK
- 2.25 deg. camber all around, 0 toe front, 1/8" rear, bsk max toe in curve
- mild right height drop (i can't really tell you how low. maybe the picture will help)

I'm looking to do this, please advise:
- 2.5" risers for wing
- KW V3 coilovers or HKS hipermax or just stiffer springs w/ PSS9
- ss brake lines
- Project Mu Level Max 900 race pads (I can get this for cheap)
- baffled oil pan
- catch can

I'm not looking into any specific class. I'm just going to do regular, fun track days.. at least for now. Please advise.


Thanks,
Jeff

i am on stock rotors and ferodos. my track temps are pretty high as i'm in tropical asia but i dont get a mushy pedal ever from boiling fluid due a custom brake ducts kit. try to get some ideas from the forum and get ur mech to do up a ducting kit for you.

its rather cheap but u need to fiddle around with a bit of the piping fitment. good part is u will be able to track all day without a soft pedal, u might even last more trackdays with the same fluid. i couldnt confirm it but i believe it helps my rotor and pad life as well.
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Old Sep 22, 2009 | 09:24 PM
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Originally Posted by c32b,Sep 22 2009, 10:11 PM
i am on stock rotors and ferodos. my track temps are pretty high as i'm in tropical asia but i dont get a mushy pedal ever from boiling fluid due a custom brake ducts kit. try to get some ideas from the forum and get ur mech to do up a ducting kit for you.

its rather cheap but u need to fiddle around with a bit of the piping fitment. good part is u will be able to track all day without a soft pedal, u might even last more trackdays with the same fluid. i couldnt confirm it but i believe it helps my rotor and pad life as well.
My next mod
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Old Sep 22, 2009 | 10:05 PM
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Originally Posted by Turn-R-Us,Sep 22 2009, 08:18 PM
usually not. They have a different PVC which prevent the blow by.
I'm gonna go out on a limb here and say that all s2ks benefit from having a catch can.

I've found that I actually get a rather large flow of oil from the breather in certain situations. I seriously doubt that the PVC has anything to do with it....its just a check valve. Perhaps the baffling on the AP2 valve cover is different.....
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Old Sep 22, 2009 | 11:40 PM
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Originally Posted by macr88,Sep 22 2009, 09:24 PM
My next mod
your next mod meaning u gonna do ducts? my current set up is 2 funnels per front side of the car each leading to caliper and to the rotor.

for the rear, one each side, i have a funnel with a Y joint directing air to rotor and caliper.

seems to work well. i used to need to bleed brakes after every track session even with motul brake fluid and SS brake lines. now i've gone for 3 track days and the pedal is still firm as a brick. Doesnt even let up while i'm pushing hard to 15 laps consecutively.
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Old Sep 22, 2009 | 11:42 PM
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Originally Posted by c32b,Sep 23 2009, 12:40 AM
your next mod meaning u gonna do ducts? my current set up is 2 funnels per front side of the car each leading to caliper and to the rotor.

for the rear, one each side, i have a funnel with a Y joint directing air to rotor and caliper.

seems to work well. i used to need to bleed brakes after every track session even with motul brake fluid and SS brake lines. now i've gone for 3 track days and the pedal is still firm as a brick. Doesnt even let up while i'm pushing hard to 15 laps consecutively.
I need to head to Home Depot and make some brake ducts.
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Old Sep 22, 2009 | 11:55 PM
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Originally Posted by rob.ok,Sep 22 2009, 11:05 PM
I'm gonna go out on a limb here and say that all s2ks benefit from having a catch can.

I've found that I actually get a rather large flow of oil from the breather in certain situations. I seriously doubt that the PVC has anything to do with it....its just a check valve. Perhaps the baffling on the AP2 valve cover is different.....
From what I've been told it is different but not quite different enough. The spoon valve cover also helps, they must have changed the baffleing.
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Old Sep 22, 2009 | 11:58 PM
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Originally Posted by c32b,Sep 23 2009, 12:40 AM
your next mod meaning u gonna do ducts? my current set up is 2 funnels per front side of the car each leading to caliper and to the rotor.

for the rear, one each side, i have a funnel with a Y joint directing air to rotor and caliper.

seems to work well. i used to need to bleed brakes after every track session even with motul brake fluid and SS brake lines. now i've gone for 3 track days and the pedal is still firm as a brick. Doesnt even let up while i'm pushing hard to 15 laps consecutively.
Yes, but my mods happen very slowly hopefully before next years track days. It takes me forever to decide on how and what I'm going to use.
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Old Sep 23, 2009 | 02:03 AM
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did you guys mean?

Positive Crankcase Ventilation valve, or PCV valve
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Old Sep 23, 2009 | 05:37 AM
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I am not sure if all the problem is in the crankcase cover, PCV or the actually setup of venting the PCV into the intake. When you hook up the catch can the way you are supposed to PCV--->catchcan--->intake, you still get alot of oil trapping into the can, enough that I have to empty after every session.

If the distal or the tubing is not connected to the intake and allowed to simply breath, minimal oil if any gets trapped into the can. I just closed off the vent on the intake.

Therefore I dont believe it is all the problem of the cover or the PCV, it is a combo of the whole thing.
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Old Sep 23, 2009 | 06:45 AM
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What happens to the oil if you don't have a catch can? Is it just burned off? I haven't noticed any loss in power or smoke on corner exit, but I'm still on street tires.

On a given track day, I only lose about two X's worth of oil or less on the dipstick.
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