I don't see why we should start a rumor claiming that this information released by Honda is false. You should do your own homework and contact Honda and ask them for the specifics and proof? Then you can post up your findings here. Until that happens, Honda gets the benefit of the doubt in my case...

 

What are you talking about? No one said their information was false. The rumor is that the information came from a wind tunnel. Where do you see that it does?

You guys do know the difference between calculations, simulation, and actual testing, right?

Nobody gets the benefit of the doubt in engineering.

 

[QUOTE=FormulaRedline,Jun 3 2008, 02:08 PM] The rumor is that the information came from a wind tunnel.

 

Sorry, I must be blind because multiple other people are saying it, but I honestly couldn't find where Honda says they used a wind tunnel. I've read and searched through the links you provided as well as my own searched, but didn't come up with anything better than some JDM mag saying "wind tunnel tested in Japan!" without any support. Could you link or quote it?

I am interested in the hard data, the data that actually says the wing is worth it's weight, drag, and price in downforce. I believe that is basically the question the OP is asking, and I'd like to know whether to be able to recommend it to him.

Calling Honda is not a bad idea, I just didn't want to skip over something easy that was already published.

 

This should be in "talk" FWIW. Honda is not going to release the data.

I have only seen "data" from the APR wing. This is meaningless regardless. If you are serious about a wing, get a high stand and the big GTC 300 APR wing. A guy posted his cfd models here a while ago and he showed significant lift, so just about any decent wing will improve the balance.

 

thanks for that last post intj.

 

you're turning this into a joke.

YOU go back and read my post.

i said it is wind tunnel tested, not that "honda said it was..."

in fact, i don't care if honda said it, or if motortrend said it, or car and driver said it...i don't give a shet.

it's been published by reputable publications as wind tunnel tested...so who da fuq cares who said it?

HONDA did SAY that it improves downforce by a certain percentage.

and now you want to see their test numbers?

what the fuq?

 

Don't get pissed at me because you can't back up your claims. A bunch of JDM ricer magazines said "Wind tunnel tested in Japan!!!". No one from Honda or connected to them ever said that. The JDM mags jumped to conclusions, just like you did.

As an aero engineer, I can tell you there are a hundred ways Honda could have come up with estimates for Cl numbers without ever putting anything in a wind tunnel. Not to say that some of those ways won't give good estimates, but it's not a wind tunnel.

 

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you're entitled to your opinion.

but don't put words in my mouth.

i said it was wind-tunnel tested. i regurgitated various publications claims.

don't point to me to provide you with proof that HONDA said it - that was never my claim.

so don't ask me to back it up anymore. thanks.