I'd do RTR if classes were split and not lumped together by drivetrain. I still think the lower-classed cars will mop up due to ability to use their full PAX.

If they do split by actual class (T-BS) and not drivetrain, we'll be killed by the STI.

 

I think you are correct Ckit on the slower cars not sure I would say mop up, but they will have a little better PAX. Maybe we will get an adjusted PAX after Rick get more data on street tires, but that will not be until next year at the earliest if it happens at all.

With the AWD cars getting rear sway bars they may move to the top on R-comps anyway.

 

I agree that we're at a relative disadvantage compared to lower classed cars, but I'm not too worried about it, for two reasons. Firstly, I don't expect to have much difficulty putting down power even on street tires; I grant I may be wrong on that one, though. Secondly (and more personally), I'm good enough to trophy at national-level events but generally not to win them. Given that, I'm not tremendously bothered even if the class structure moves me one further down in the trophies than I would be otherwise. I'm willing to take that hit in exchange for the luxury of not having to change tires or spend a ton of money, and also to support the class. If I were a jacket contender, I might think differently.

I think you're overestimating the STI. I haven't seen very many of them driven by competent drivers, but the ones I have seen haven't impressed. Case in point: look at the whooping most of the class put on Buckley and Hertweck at last year's Pro Finale.

 

We have a couple of STI guys in the Midwest that routinely beat me by 0.5-1 second.

Could have something to do with local lack of traction, but I think that's really going to matter on street tires.

With lower cornering speeds, we're going to be lower in our respective powerbands and that could be the kiss of death compared to boosted cars.

As for the trophy thing, you'll probably do better than in a sticky tire class as I'd expect more trophy fodder with a few hard-core poachers.

There won't be any National-champion grade drivers in RTR for the simple reason that they won't have an official RTR National Champion until it becomes a real class. Probably just have a "National Winner."

So a class with zero Nat champion drivers vs. true BS with Jadrice, Ricky Crow, Jeff Janzen, Vivek, Barbato and a few others... Sh!t. You might have to be National Champion grade to even trophy in B-stock.

I'd rather do that then drive my ass off and be 1st non-G-stock RTR trophy.

 

STR, especially if you are a seasoned driver and don't have to focus just on driver improvement.

 

I'm debating between going stock vs. str as well. Since I live in a townhouse, I'd have to rent a storage center for a trailer and rcomps. Add in the cost of new and expensive hoosiers each season and it's easy to see how a lot of money that could go to wheels and springs would just get eaten up by tires/storage. On the other hand, I already have a gendron fsb, so all I'd really need are shocks and an exhaust to finish getting the car prepped to BS rules.
I'd like the convenience of not having to change wheels in STR, but I'm a little worried about the daily driveability of those 17x9 wheels. For those of you who DD your STR cars, how bad is parking and going over speed bumps? I do a fair amount of parallel parking, and I've heard lower control arm rubbing can be a problem.

 

My ride height is slightly higher than many others by 1/4-1/2", and I also have fairly soft springs comparitively. I have no rubbing problems whatsoever daily driving. No rubbing at autocrosses, on speed bumps, or at full lock.

Edit: 17x9 with 255/40/17 tires, and the fender tabs were bent up.

 

Why not RTR then? It combines the convenience of not having to change wheels with the lack of expense and daily drivability of Stock prep.

 

That's probably what it's going to be for this year. I can always move up to STR and keep the aftermarket shocks. I'm probably going to go with custom SA konis and upgrade them to DA if/when my abilities as a driver improve. I'm also looking at the AST 4100s, but there's very little information about them for the S2000. The konis, on the other hand have a wealth of information and koni NA has a good base lane valving for stock class.

 

Im on 17x9 +63 and run a 3mm spacer in front. My ride height is about 1 inch lower than stock front and rear. I havent had any issues with rubbing at all. No issues with driveways or speed bumps. My driveway has a 6 inch roll over curb and i do have to hit it just right but when i dont the pinch weld wil lay down but not control arms.