New Tire Time!!
07-13-2017, 05:59 AM
#42
For us, the Star Spec has been left behind a bit, though we still keep it on hand as our rain tire. You DO NOT want to be on any Rival in the rain.
The NT01 is a darn good tire for old tech, however it's ultimate grip level is probably slightly less than the new Rival or the RE71. What NT01's are good at, is tolerance for heat on the track. They are just more predictable. Better turn in than Rivals, less likely to overheat/grease up than RE71.
Now, at the last couple endurance races, we see more and more teams on RS4. They seem to wear much better than Rival or RE71, at the sacrifice of a little bit of ultimate grip. This is the tire we are going to be using. So I guess what I'm saying is, unless you want to trade off durability for the last bit of ultimate grip, I think you are making a good decision with RS4
07-13-2017, 06:54 AM
#43
Mr Goetz; we have found that most of the new compound 200TW tires are giving significantly less wear than their previous generation. We used to be able to run a whole weekend (2 separate 8 hour races) on a single set of the original Rivals. We corded a set of the 1.5's after a single 8 hour race at Mid O. RE71's are roughly the same or less durable. Rivals are a bit less responsive on turn in, but grease up less over time.
For us, the Star Spec has been left behind a bit, though we still keep it on hand as our rain tire. You DO NOT want to be on any Rival in the rain.
The NT01 is a darn good tire for old tech, however it's ultimate grip level is probably slightly less than the new Rival or the RE71. What NT01's are good at, is tolerance for heat on the track. They are just more predictable. Better turn in than Rivals, less likely to overheat/grease up than RE71.
Now, at the last couple endurance races, we see more and more teams on RS4. They seem to wear much better than Rival or RE71, at the sacrifice of a little bit of ultimate grip. This is the tire we are going to be using. So I guess what I'm saying is, unless you want to trade off durability for the last bit of ultimate grip, I think you are making a good decision with RS4
For us, the Star Spec has been left behind a bit, though we still keep it on hand as our rain tire. You DO NOT want to be on any Rival in the rain.
The NT01 is a darn good tire for old tech, however it's ultimate grip level is probably slightly less than the new Rival or the RE71. What NT01's are good at, is tolerance for heat on the track. They are just more predictable. Better turn in than Rivals, less likely to overheat/grease up than RE71.
Now, at the last couple endurance races, we see more and more teams on RS4. They seem to wear much better than Rival or RE71, at the sacrifice of a little bit of ultimate grip. This is the tire we are going to be using. So I guess what I'm saying is, unless you want to trade off durability for the last bit of ultimate grip, I think you are making a good decision with RS4
07-13-2017, 07:38 AM
#44
I have a set of RS4s sitting/waiting for my other wheels to be finished. Haven't seen a lot of feedback on the RS4's, this thread has somewhat reassured my purchase. Look forward to testing them out in comparison to the last set of RS3s i had. Keep us updated Brent!
07-13-2017, 01:48 PM
#45
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Mr Goetz; we have found that most of the new compound 200TW tires are giving significantly less wear than their previous generation. We used to be able to run a whole weekend (2 separate 8 hour races) on a single set of the original Rivals. We corded a set of the 1.5's after a single 8 hour race at Mid O. RE71's are roughly the same or less durable. Rivals are a bit less responsive on turn in, but grease up less over time.
For us, the Star Spec has been left behind a bit, though we still keep it on hand as our rain tire. You DO NOT want to be on any Rival in the rain.
The NT01 is a darn good tire for old tech, however it's ultimate grip level is probably slightly less than the new Rival or the RE71. What NT01's are good at, is tolerance for heat on the track. They are just more predictable. Better turn in than Rivals, less likely to overheat/grease up than RE71.
Now, at the last couple endurance races, we see more and more teams on RS4. They seem to wear much better than Rival or RE71, at the sacrifice of a little bit of ultimate grip. This is the tire we are going to be using. So I guess what I'm saying is, unless you want to trade off durability for the last bit of ultimate grip, I think you are making a good decision with RS4
For us, the Star Spec has been left behind a bit, though we still keep it on hand as our rain tire. You DO NOT want to be on any Rival in the rain.
The NT01 is a darn good tire for old tech, however it's ultimate grip level is probably slightly less than the new Rival or the RE71. What NT01's are good at, is tolerance for heat on the track. They are just more predictable. Better turn in than Rivals, less likely to overheat/grease up than RE71.
Now, at the last couple endurance races, we see more and more teams on RS4. They seem to wear much better than Rival or RE71, at the sacrifice of a little bit of ultimate grip. This is the tire we are going to be using. So I guess what I'm saying is, unless you want to trade off durability for the last bit of ultimate grip, I think you are making a good decision with RS4
The RS4 wears MUCH better than the re71r or rival s/s1.5. It's not as fast, but that's to be expected. Some autocrossers are saying the SUR4G is better than the RS4 though. Crisper turn in, and more grip.
07-13-2017, 05:23 PM
#46
07-14-2017, 03:36 PM
#47
Ok, I am going to toss a curveball. I can get the SUR4s on closeout for a lot cheaper than the RS4s. Does anyone have any experience with the SUR4s and can provide an opinion? From my research I am reading they are as good or better than RS3s, if that is the case it may be a good option.
07-14-2017, 07:17 PM
#48
I've done 4 trackdays on mine, I like them for the price.
07-15-2017, 04:28 AM
#49
07-15-2017, 06:52 AM
#50
With all the choices, sometimes it makes sense to let the price do the talking. That's how I ended up with my rivals 1.0 which were never too popular, but the worked well for me. A forgiving tire that offered consistency over use. If I had a complaint it would be sharper handling at lower slip angles, they seem a bit better for a heavy handed driver. Now I am looking for more grip without loosing consistency so either a better EHP tire or a streetable r-comp.
Between the rs4 and Nexen, and a modest price difference I would go with the rs4. Your experience with rs3s would be enough to sell me. However, I am still pretty sold on nt01 for what I am looking for. Check out that thread I linked earlier if you have not already.
good luck either way.
Between the rs4 and Nexen, and a modest price difference I would go with the rs4. Your experience with rs3s would be enough to sell me. However, I am still pretty sold on nt01 for what I am looking for. Check out that thread I linked earlier if you have not already.
good luck either way.