We get enough questions about OEM pads on the track that I thought it would be useful to show this. The long story is that several years ago I had my track Miata and my S2000 (as daily driver) at the track for a S2000 oriented HPDE. I decided to take my S2000 out just for giggles. This is what happened to OEM pads after 4 laps on the Shenandoah Circuit at Summit Point. I had brake failure due to pads overheating and fading BADLY which caused me to enter the T10 way to fast but I kept it out of the wall. Car was stock except for front sway bar, aggressive alignment and Victoracers.

I continued to use the pads for autoX and street driving but the braking never really full recovered and this is why:





Use track pads on the track and street pads on the street!

 

No, that's what happens when you use stock pads and Victoracers on the same car. What were you thinking using that kind of a tire with stock brake pads?

 

Reading comprehension > you.


Since you seem to be slow, I will repeat what I wrote in answer to your question: Just for giggles I went out for a couple of moderate pace laps in my S2000 before suffering pretty severe pad fade. My well worn, heat cycled out Victoracers probably did not have any more grip than a nice new set of D1s, RE11, NT05 or what ever the current hot steet tire of the day is.

 

That happens with the stock RE050's as well. Stock pads can't take the heat.

 

Exactly! I admit I was surprised at how quickly I suffered pad fade. The question pops up enough that it should probably be stickied. OEM pads are not suited for the temps seen at that track and although you *might* get by with them at your first or second HPDE, you will probably drastically reduce the life of your nice street pads (and may find it difficult or impossible to stop at the track when you least expect it).

 

Wow. What a cock sucker response.

Where in this original post does it say your Victoracers are heat cycled out and worn and gripping no more than the 'hot street tire of the day?'

"We get enough questions about OEM pads on the track that I thought it would be useful to show this. The long story is that several years ago I had my track Miata and my S2000 (as daily driver) at the track for a S2000 oriented HPDE. I decided to take my S2000 out just for giggles. This is what happened to OEM pads after 4 laps on the Shenandoah Circuit at Summit Point. I had brake failure due to pads overheating and fading BADLY which caused me to enter the T10 way to fast but I kept it out of the wall. Car was stock except for front sway bar, aggressive alignment and Victoracers.

I continued to use the pads for autoX and street driving but the braking never really full recovered and this is why:"

 

 

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False.

 

I agree with spook and 007.
what crawled up your but today Tube?

ok now lets try and stay on subject.
I have never run stock pads on my race car so I have no input.

cheers

 

You don't like my response when you waddled in, waving around your e-dick and pissing in my thread?

Fact: People post threads all the time asking if OEM pads (or some OEM pad equivalent like AX6 pads) will work on the track.

Fact: OEM pads are not really sufficient for track use. You might get away with it if you are slow, the circuit is not hard on brakes etc but then again you might not.

Fact: I start a thread showing what will happen after 4 laps. I mention I ran my car just for giggles and had a set of Victoracers. I posted pictures which show that the OEM pad compound just broke up, a waste of a perfectly good street pad.

Fact: Current high performance street tires (like RE01R, RE011, D1s, NT05, RS2 etc) have about 90% of the performance of tires like the RA1 or Victoracer.

Fact: I faded and damaged my OEM pads on Victoracers after 4 laps, probably could have done the same in 4-6 laps with the street tires I mentioned above.

Then courage007 wades in and says it is because I had Victoracers on. This suggests that I would have been fine if I had just used OEM or street tires.
Asks "What was I thinking"? This requires me to add some additional details that clarify but do not in any way really change the scenario.


In conclusion:

TubeDriver: Does not recommend OEM pads for track use regardless of the tires you use.

Courage007: Thinks OEM pads are fine with street tires.