Ohlins DFVs..
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Yes, you can drive in a controlled environment for a few minutes.
I do appreciate the information but I don't think there is any point in comparing how any part performs in Autocross to how it might perform in other forms of motor sport. It is in no way the gold standard test environment for anything other than autocross, simple as that.
I really pity people that thing autocross national championships are a reasonable way of determining the quality of a damper.. as it is the only type done in that controlled of an environment, not to mention no real high speed corners, elevation change, the list could go on. That is another discussion though, I don't mean to be confrontational I just don't think autocross should be held to the standard that it is.
So anyone have something other than autocross impressions?
I do appreciate the information but I don't think there is any point in comparing how any part performs in Autocross to how it might perform in other forms of motor sport. It is in no way the gold standard test environment for anything other than autocross, simple as that.
I really pity people that thing autocross national championships are a reasonable way of determining the quality of a damper.. as it is the only type done in that controlled of an environment, not to mention no real high speed corners, elevation change, the list could go on. That is another discussion though, I don't mean to be confrontational I just don't think autocross should be held to the standard that it is.
So anyone have something other than autocross impressions?
Most HPDE drivers hemorrhage time and couldn't tune themselves out of a paper bag.
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Ive changed springs on them and had help setting them up from a couple competitive teams. They never felt "magic". Maybe my skills are lacking, but the Motons weren't very versatile handle different types of surfaces. As you stated, you can get them tuned for a very specific condition, but then they arent any good at another. They were completely different in cold track conditions and hot.
The Motons have to be valved for the spring rates that you are using. When you order them, they can build them to your requirements. So that you're in the middle of your adjustment for the track and grip that you are using.
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I don't think I have ever driven a car on DFV's, but I am a fan of ohlins. In a nearly pure apples to apples comparo, I drove Mike Bright's BSP 350Z and my car at the dover evo shootout, and preferred his custom ohlins set-up to my motons. Mine were just OTS CS versions. Mike works for gibbs racing, had kyle bush's, etc shock engineer make him an ohlins LMJ set-up specific to his needs. Car weights were within ~25lb, same spring rates, same sway set-up, and tire size was also the same. Differences were, I had a diff and he had a blade spoiler on the back. Lots of similarities (and few differences), but his car felt better than mine. That said, I was faster in my car. So, feel is everything I guess.
I think the DFV set-up is pretty decent in terms of price vs performance. The main problem, as others have pointed out, is that I can get Guy Ankeny to make me some DA Penske's for almost the same price.
I think the DFV set-up is pretty decent in terms of price vs performance. The main problem, as others have pointed out, is that I can get Guy Ankeny to make me some DA Penske's for almost the same price.
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Most Autocross drivers hemorrhage time and couldn't tune themselves out of a paper bag.
See what I did there, it works both ways.
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Originally Posted by PedalFaster' timestamp='1350082193' post='22078873
[quote name='andrewhake' timestamp='1350070100' post='22078477']
Winding road>Track>Autocross
Winding road>Track>Autocross
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I respectfully agree...
