Powdercoating track wheels
I included this quote in another thread, so I apologize for the redundancy. It's from the May '09 issue of 'Sports Car Magazine' the article entitled 'The Deal With Wheels':
'Should you have the need to refinish your wheels, all the experts we spoke to recommend painting them.'
"The heating process involved with powder coating can affect the heat treatment of the wheel," says (Craig) Donnelly, "When BBS produces a wheel with a powder coated finish, that process has been engineered into the design of that wheel, once it leaves the factory it should not be powder coated."
- Craig Donnelly of BBS
'Should you have the need to refinish your wheels, all the experts we spoke to recommend painting them.'
"The heating process involved with powder coating can affect the heat treatment of the wheel," says (Craig) Donnelly, "When BBS produces a wheel with a powder coated finish, that process has been engineered into the design of that wheel, once it leaves the factory it should not be powder coated."
- Craig Donnelly of BBS
Originally Posted by Voodoo_S2K,Aug 21 2009, 11:14 AM
the next time you make a poor decision on the track [...] is more like to effect any drivers near you then some powder coated wheels.
So...out of 50,000+ S2000's, there are less than a handful who've had wheels crack from powdercoating - and that means powdercoating is bad?
C'mon people. Perspective is everything.
2 out of 1,000 is <1%, and I'm pretty certain there are more than just 1,000 sets of PC'd OEM wheels...
C'mon people. Perspective is everything.
2 out of 1,000 is <1%, and I'm pretty certain there are more than just 1,000 sets of PC'd OEM wheels...
As opposed to the "blow it out of proportion" argument?
e.g. "10 guys with ACT clutches have crankwalk, therefore all ACT clutch setups are bad," or "2 sets out of the thousands PC'd and used on the track have cracked, therefore PC'ing wheels is bad."
There is absolutely no collaboration that identifies PC'ing as being responsible for the wheels cracking. Maybe those 2 sets were bad from Honda, maybe those 2 sets aren't true OEM, maybe those 2 sets were driven off-track 1 too many times, etc.
I have yet to see conclusive proof that properly PC'd OEM wheels will crack when subjected to performance driving.
e.g. "10 guys with ACT clutches have crankwalk, therefore all ACT clutch setups are bad," or "2 sets out of the thousands PC'd and used on the track have cracked, therefore PC'ing wheels is bad."
There is absolutely no collaboration that identifies PC'ing as being responsible for the wheels cracking. Maybe those 2 sets were bad from Honda, maybe those 2 sets aren't true OEM, maybe those 2 sets were driven off-track 1 too many times, etc.
I have yet to see conclusive proof that properly PC'd OEM wheels will crack when subjected to performance driving.
Originally Posted by Neutered Sputniks,Aug 21 2009, 02:40 PM
I have yet to see conclusive proof that properly PC'd OEM wheels will crack when subjected to performance driving.
Secondly, you don't meet your own burden of proof -- to echo your own words back at you, I have yet to see conclusive proof that wheels with aftermarket powder coating won't crack more often than non-powder coated wheels when subjected to performance driving.
Since neither side has data, this comes down to a philosophical debate over personal for risk tolerance. Personally, if I'm doing a buck-twenty in traffic, anything that makes me more confident in my equipment helps me drive faster. Your opinion evidently differs. Some people think the money for a HANS is a good investment; some don't. We'll have to agree to disagree.
Originally Posted by Neutered Sputniks,Aug 21 2009, 02:34 PM
2 out of 1,000 is <1%, and I'm pretty certain there are more than just 1,000 sets of PC'd OEM wheels...
Also, this is the Racing and Competition forum, so please provide data indicating what proportion of the sample set was used in competition or high performance driving environments.
Ok, so the gist of that thread is that it's up to the specific PC'ing process used by the PC'er, not the PC'ing itself.
But, hey, probably just splitting hairs. I mean, the boards are absolutely rife with people who have cracked powdercoated wheels...
But, hey, probably just splitting hairs. I mean, the boards are absolutely rife with people who have cracked powdercoated wheels...
Burden of proof is on you just as much as you're making the claim that PC'ing is bad for track wheels.
I mean, these boards are rife with people with cracked wheels from PC'ing...
Prove to me that PC'ing is bad (and not just that any PC'ing is bad, but that ALL process levels are bad... It's possible to PC at lower cure temps that do not negatively affect the wheel's integrity).
So, you want to get into it...lets get into it. Bring me indisputable proof that PC'ing is what caused those wheels to go bad.
I mean, these boards are rife with people with cracked wheels from PC'ing...
Prove to me that PC'ing is bad (and not just that any PC'ing is bad, but that ALL process levels are bad... It's possible to PC at lower cure temps that do not negatively affect the wheel's integrity).
So, you want to get into it...lets get into it. Bring me indisputable proof that PC'ing is what caused those wheels to go bad.



