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Old Apr 12, 2017 | 05:05 AM
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Originally Posted by ZDan
To make things worse, " means inches, but it also means an arc-second of angle so technically that's still ambiguous! I don't think many people use arc-seconds for vehicle alignments, BUT the infamous and extremely wrong (by about a factor of 4x) UK spec for AP1 alignment uses the " symbol but apparently they meant ', arc-minutes and not arc-seconds *or* inches! Damn...

Also, today I learned that Alt 248 gives degree symbol on PC: °
Yep, standard notation for degrees, minutes and seconds is °, " and '

There are 60 minutes or " in a degree
There are 60 seconds or ' in a minute

The UK alignment of 0° 20" for each side of rear toe means 1/3rd of one degree, or 0.3333333°

Most UK alignment places use this measuring system.

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Old Apr 12, 2017 | 06:18 AM
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Originally Posted by lovegroova
Yep, standard notation for degrees, minutes and seconds is °, " and '
No, degrees, minutes, seconds is °, ', "

There are 60 minutes or " in a degree
There are 60 seconds or ' in a minute
minutes: '
seconds: "

The UK alignment of 0° 20" for each side of rear toe means 1/3rd of one degree, or 0.3333333°
They screwed up in more ways than one in the UK spec!
First, they used the symbol for arc-seconds (") when they meant arc-minutes (').
Second, they give a range for rear toe from a minimum of 0.33° to max 0.67° *PER SIDE* or 0.67° all the way up to 1.33° max total, which is perfectly absurd! I believe someone erroneously took what were meant to be *TOTAL* toe-in figures and applied them per side. Instead of realizing and fixing the mistake, they "recommend" the lowest end of their misinterpreted range, which is the MAX end of what the range was supposed to be (0.33° to 0.67° total). AND, that range is still way too high for me, by at least a factor of 2x.
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