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Old Jul 11, 2007 | 09:28 PM
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Originally Posted by malcolm,Jul 11 2007, 10:21 PM
if you're in engineering, it seems to me that you want to design your own wing... best way to go would be single element with generous camber. It is versatile, and for almost all tracks it will do the job quite well.
As it happens, I'm planning on designing my own wing, and it's going to look a lot like this description.
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Old Jul 11, 2007 | 09:28 PM
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Originally Posted by Borbor,Jul 11 2007, 09:26 PM
only true if you're not charging into the corner too hard and killing the exits
haha, but it's way easier to do that if you have less downforce.
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Old Jul 11, 2007 | 09:30 PM
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Originally Posted by mikegarrison,Jul 11 2007, 09:26 PM
You didn't define "efficiency" until now.
i assumed you guys would know what aero efficiency is,

good thread
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Old Jul 11, 2007 | 09:31 PM
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Originally Posted by mikegarrison,Jul 11 2007, 09:28 PM
As it happens, I'm planning on designing my own wing, and it's going to look a lot like this description.
nice. i designed and built a triple for my final-year project at school... LOTS of work... but I really enjoyed it. I think i'm kinda bent, considering I really enjoyed tinkering away on CFD...
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Old Jul 11, 2007 | 09:31 PM
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By the way, on Sunday I just saw one of the most gorgeous wings ever. When you guys get a chance to see a 787 in person, you'll see what I mean.
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Old Jul 11, 2007 | 09:33 PM
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Originally Posted by malcolm,Jul 12 2007, 01:28 AM
haha, but it's way easier to do that if you have less downforce.
to be honest, i'm not sure if that's true.

the limit is different, but the nut behind the wheel still want to push it as close to the edge as he/she can.

From first hand experience I know I've worked with someone who does it all the time; no matter what track we were at. AT the same time, the other guy also with limited experience seems to be just fine and is really starting to pickup the pace.

One gets it and has it, the other doesn't I suppose.
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Old Jul 11, 2007 | 09:33 PM
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Originally Posted by eurotrashdtm,Jul 11 2007, 10:30 PM
i assumed you guys would know what aero efficiency is
L/D is not the only kind of aero efficiency.
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Old Jul 11, 2007 | 09:36 PM
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actually, you might be right... a lot of people get weirded out by downforce. they are used to their non-downforce limits, and can't really gauge where the limit really is. I just push it until it slides... that's usually good enough for me.
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Old Jul 11, 2007 | 09:37 PM
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Originally Posted by mikegarrison,Jul 11 2007, 09:33 PM
L/D is not the only kind of aero efficiency.
exactly. there's always the lesser-known sexiness/weight for any given wing.
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Old Jul 11, 2007 | 09:47 PM
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Originally Posted by malcolm,Jul 11 2007, 09:37 PM
exactly. there's always the lesser-known sexiness/weight for any given wing.
lol

im starting to get more and more into aero, thinking about doing my grad study in that feild. Ive only learned about pipe flow fluids so far, but its definetly starting to interest me, especially with everything that is developing with CFD
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