It was suggested to me by one of the instructors who has a s2K to hold off on putting the wing on until I'm running in one of the higher ability HPDE groups. I'm currently in the lowest solo group. He hasn't steered me wrong ( no pun intended) so I'll heed his advice. That makes 2 experienced drivers advising against the premature installation of a wing (you were more indirect) I know there's more time out there, and I need to improve my abilities rather than the car's. I'm not driving the car at the limit yet. The reason I bought the wing was because it was a great deal, and knowing that someday I'll want one I figured I'd jump on it.

You see, I've been bitten by the track bug so it's fun to shop for parts, mod the car, etc.... However, my better judgement tells me I should focus on improving myself with the car I have than to add a bunch if other go fast parts that are not necessary for my development.

Thanks for all the support!

 

^This.

It is hard to resist the urge to throw mods at a car, but all you are doing is potentially making the car quicker, not yourself quicker. I've had my S for 10 years now, and I'm finally getting around to putting aero on it.

 

Well I've made some progress....before ever putting my car on the track, I thought I wanted a 400 whp S2000. Ha!!! was I wrong!!! The last thing I need is more HP.

For now, the wing can hang on the wall. I have a lap time in mind that I want to run consistantly at my local track before I put aero on the car.

 

what time is it? cw or ccw?

 

haha, what's up Thanasis?

2:04 TWS CCW (just because that's the most common direction), but I don't want to derail this thread. PM me.

 

I have barely driven my S only 2,000 miles in almost two years. I just do not have the time left in my life to drive 50,000 miles and add a mod and analyze the f@#k out of what one mod did and how it cut my time down by .03 sec on such and such a track. And then drive another 10,000 miles to get used to that and then and another mod and analyze it and then I am dead from old age. I have done every freaking thing I can to make my car faster and better in every department. Now I will learn how to drive this car and I hope I never reach it limits so when I f@#k up driving it can catch me.

Would you go out and buy a Porsche GT-3, de-tune it, put skinny tires on it, and take off the sway bars so you could learn how to drive a lesser car?

I have the experience of many flesh and blood friends, hundreds on this forum, and others who have modified their rides for the track. Take Rob R for instance, I think it is pretty sound advice to follow his proven mods. I do not have to put them on my car one at a time if I have the resources to put them on all at once. Sure I will tweak everything to fit my unique set up and driving skills but I think it is bunch of bull to hold off on a mod because you will make the car too good and you won't be able to handle it. It is true that your skills may not tax the mod, ie the mod will never come into play because you are not fast enough etc but who cares. It will be there when you need it. If it comes to need vs want 99% of the shit folks do fall under the want catagory and not the need catagory. Okay I am done

 

FWIW, I've seen and driven cars that were made worse due to the modifications that were done. I think its important to slowly build up a car to figure out exactly what you want to change versus changing parts because of others success. The mod-bug can be an evil thing.

 

1) Nope, Id just buy a s2k and add brake pads.

2) Some people want to be better drivers. If your just learning how to control a car at the limit, it makes it very hard to learn if its a different handling car every time you drive it. Some people newer to driving may not realize this so its advice worth mentioning. That being said if you value tinkering and/or tuning more than driver development, than I agree with you. Mod until your hearts content!

 

high HP and sticky tires are the worst thing for a new driver as they both mask bad habits


want to be a fast driver? start in a miata and learn to carry speed everywhere, every turn in a miata is a momentum turn

i swear on average miata drivers carry more speed than anyone through T1 at sebring.

 

I also disagree with the notion that you shouldn't mod your car until you gain lots of experience on the track. That is a ridiculous blanket statement.

It makes no sense at all when you consider that the first track car somebody has may be completely different than some other car. The first track car you have may be a Miata, or a Mustang or an Integra GS-R or a 1990 Prosche 911 or a newer GT-3 or whatever.

All extremely different handling cars.

What you probably shouldn't do is put new mods on it everytime you go to the track when you are new. That will indeed impede your learning progress.

But if you buy a regular 02 S2k, and mod it like a CR, and then go to the track, nothing wrong with that.