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Old Oct 13, 2015 | 07:51 AM
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Originally Posted by austincrx
I guess we're all just a little peeved having spent money and realizing (or finding out, however you want to put it) that the car may not be competitive anymore.
I've read the rules for NASA ST and it looks like I will have to do a fair bit of modifications to the car (going backwards), which I don't want to do, so I'll stay with SCCA for now (I like SCCA more in general anyway). The rules can always change, they may even allow something crazy like individual throttle bodies for the F20/F22 motors, who knows. Until then I'll keep making my car lighter and maybe by March I'll be motivated to give it another shot next season. The runoffs are at Mid-Ohio, afterall!
Why would you have to go backwards to run in NASA ST. It is basically an open weightower ratio class.
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Old Oct 13, 2015 | 11:09 AM
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Originally Posted by King Tut
Originally Posted by austincrx' timestamp='1444662577' post='23773064
I guess we're all just a little peeved having spent money and realizing (or finding out, however you want to put it) that the car may not be competitive anymore.
I've read the rules for NASA ST and it looks like I will have to do a fair bit of modifications to the car (going backwards), which I don't want to do, so I'll stay with SCCA for now (I like SCCA more in general anyway). The rules can always change, they may even allow something crazy like individual throttle bodies for the F20/F22 motors, who knows. Until then I'll keep making my car lighter and maybe by March I'll be motivated to give it another shot next season. The runoffs are at Mid-Ohio, afterall!
Why would you have to go backwards to run in NASA ST. It is basically an open weightower ratio class.
The way I read the rules is that certain modifications are allowed/disallowed and then the weightower ratio is used as a guideline. I have noticed that with the points system I am classed as ST3, but using weight to power I am classed lowly in PTB, so I still see an issue there.
Is the PT/ST classing structure purely a weightower class structure, I thought the points system superseded that?
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Old Oct 14, 2015 | 07:23 AM
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Originally Posted by austincrx
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[quote name='austincrx' timestamp='1444662577' post='23773064']I guess we're all just a little peeved having spent money and realizing (or finding out, however you want to put it) that the car may not be competitive anymore.
I've read the rules for NASA ST and it looks like I will have to do a fair bit of modifications to the car (going backwards), which I don't want to do, so I'll stay with SCCA for now (I like SCCA more in general anyway). The rules can always change, they may even allow something crazy like individual throttle bodies for the F20/F22 motors, who knows. Until then I'll keep making my car lighter and maybe by March I'll be motivated to give it another shot next season. The runoffs are at Mid-Ohio, afterall!
Why would you have to go backwards to run in NASA ST. It is basically an open weightower ratio class.
The way I read the rules is that certain modifications are allowed/disallowed and then the weightower ratio is used as a guideline. I have noticed that with the points system I am classed as ST3, but using weight to power I am classed lowly in PTB, so I still see an issue there.
Is the PT/ST classing structure purely a weightower class structure, I thought the points system superseded that?
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PT is still points based, but you said ST which is weightower with modifiers. It sounds like you will want to run ST3 and then drop weight and add more power to get to the limit of the class. The other option would be a dyno reclass into PTB and then use the remaining 19 points to keep as many parts as you already have to remain in PTB.
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Old Oct 14, 2015 | 09:51 PM
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Originally Posted by King Tut
PT is still points based, but you said ST which is weightower with modifiers. It sounds like you will want to run ST3 and then drop weight and add more power to get to the limit of the class. The other option would be a dyno reclass into PTB and then use the remaining 19 points to keep as many parts as you already have to remain in PTB.
Unfortunately I can't really 'drop parts' to go down to PTB, but I'm just moaning and groaning. I've put too much work into this car for SCCA STU to try to switch everything over to NASA now. Seeing the Indianapolis Runoffs 2017 announcement makes me wish this car was faster in STU, however.
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Old Oct 14, 2015 | 10:43 PM
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There isn't a single car in PT or ST3 in the RM region anyway. 2 dudes posted that they plan to run ST2 next year.
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Old Oct 16, 2015 | 08:09 AM
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Originally Posted by ndogg
There isn't a single car in PT or ST3 in the RM region anyway. 2 dudes posted that they plan to run ST2 next year.
Well, that's even more reason for me not to switch...and I would like to race at Indy in 2017, so there's that...
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Old Oct 20, 2017 | 10:09 AM
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Necro for an awesome build.
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