robrob

This is the S2000 rear V3 shock, not much room for shortening between the shock body and bottom suspension mount.




The front shock would be much easier to shorten that way:

TWF

It is same for bikes and cars. It is shock independent from vehicle.
Take 2 shocks, one with washer in it and one without. At full extension the one with washer will be shorter. Now put 500# spring on each shock and set it with 0 preload, collar to hat at exact length of the spring. Install them on car and see which car will be lower.
Lets say car weight compresses 500# spring by 2". It will do same on both shocks since you have same preload. So, droop is same. Travel left for compression is not.

TWF

Ride height adjustable shocks have clevice that screws in to or out of body.
You could also cut them of and weld new ones on with mount hole in different place (there is some room there between clevice and arm. Or even two holes so you can go back and forth in ride height.
On bikes we do either with clevice or by moving shock mount on frame (spacers). One thing we never do is adjust ride height with spring preload. This is why I don't like helper spring set up on car.

robrob

Shorter length at full extension isn't what we need on the S2000. It doesn't help keep a lowered car off the bump stops. What Steve wants is a shorter shock at full compression because when we lower the car the piston goes deeper into the shock.

TWF

That is why they use stiffer springs. Stiffer the spring less travel you will use and so can lower car more with that same shock.

robrob

OK, I see what you're saying now.

//steve\\

Absolutely true and if you could get the rates up enough you'd probably be alright with these running the off the shelf rates but I don't think going up 100lbs on the springs would be enough to keep you off the stops. Our cars only really have major problems in the rear when running the car low. If I got another set of KWs it would be the Clubsports which are 570lbs all around. I'd probably end up running 750/650 rates on them and that increase out back isn't a whole lot. Probably would cut the bumpstops a tad shorter too but I just don't know if that would help on really big bumps.

I've been really happy with my KWs in the past though so I'm not ready to right them off yet.

TWF

Maybe we can talk Sillyboy in to bringing one of his clubsports to open it up and see what difference is compared to V3

sillyboybmxer

LOL nah cant do that, I just put them on, maybe in a year or two

//steve\\

TWF, do you think you'll be able to revalved the KWs?

I'm actually considering picking up a set of Clubsports that are still new in the box. I won't have an immediate need to get them on the car so I could possibly send them your way.