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Old Apr 14, 2008 | 06:46 PM
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Old Apr 14, 2008 | 07:13 PM
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didn't the car with kw cs set the fastest time?
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Old Apr 14, 2008 | 07:32 PM
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Originally Posted by eurotrashdtm,Apr 14 2008, 07:13 PM
didn't the car with kw cs set the fastest time?
Well it really depends on how you look at it quoted from the magazine the KW CS did 2:05.501 AP2 214hp/153lb-ft MOD include J's Intake J's Fender Brace, J's Frt Toe Rod, J's Rear Toe Rod, Robi Spec 30mm solid sway bar. but in a surprise the Tein Car (AP1) 204hp/136lb-ft equip with only the Monoflex (Street Kit) but with abit more mod only 1/2 sec slower (2:06.079) plus keep it mind the monoflex only cost 1/2 of the KW CS kit.

After reading everything I just don't think is a fair test at all.

Note : The Moton Car AP1 197hp/129lb-ft (this car is prety much stock other than the Moton CS did 2:10.933 WTF?????????
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Old Apr 14, 2008 | 07:40 PM
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Originally Posted by WindchaserS2K,Apr 14 2008, 07:32 PM
Well it really depends on how you look at it quoted from the magazine the KW CS did 2:05.501 AP2 214hp/153lb-ft MOD include J's Intake(worthless) J's Fender Brace(worthless/extra weight), J's Frt Toe Rod(worthless), J's Rear Toe Rod(worthless), Robi Spec 30mm solid sway bar. but in a surprise the Tein Car (AP1) 204hp/136lb-ft equip with only the Monoflex (Street Kit) but with abit more mod only 1/2 sec slower (2:06.079) plus keep it mind the monoflex only cost 1/2 of the KW CS kit.

After reading everything I just don't think is a fair test at all.

Note : The Moton Car AP1 197hp/129lb-ft (this car is prety much stock other than the Moton CS did 2:10.933 WTF?????????
Interesting.... i need to pick this up and read it, sounds kinda iffy.....
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Old Apr 14, 2008 | 07:42 PM
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Originally Posted by eurotrashdtm,Apr 14 2008, 07:40 PM
Interesting.... i need to pick this up and read it, sounds kinda iffy.....
I wouldn't go that far and say all the toe rod are worthless but yeah the test seem kinda
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Old Apr 14, 2008 | 07:43 PM
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Originally Posted by WindchaserS2K,Apr 14 2008, 08:32 PM
Well it really depends on how you look at it quoted from the magazine the KW CS did 2:05.501 AP2 214hp/153lb-ft MOD include J's Intake J's Fender Brace, J's Frt Toe Rod, J's Rear Toe Rod, Robi Spec 30mm solid sway bar. but in a surprise the Tein Car (AP1) 204hp/136lb-ft equip with only the Monoflex (Street Kit) but with abit more mod only 1/2 sec slower (2:06.079) plus keep it mind the monoflex only cost 1/2 of the KW CS kit.

After reading everything I just don't think is a fair test at all.
Agreed. I wish all of the coilovers could have been installed and tested on the same car to provide a more accurate analysis. The driver would have been able to give very detailed feedback on the new suspensions characteristics, not to mention lap times. However installation, alignment, and rebound / damping adjustments would consume way too much time making it impossible.
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Old Apr 14, 2008 | 07:47 PM
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Originally Posted by WindchaserS2K,Apr 14 2008, 07:42 PM
I wouldn't go that far and say all the toe rod are worthless but yeah the test seem kinda
well, maybe, it was an AP2 though. I just feel like those would make no difference in lap times is all... I have too many questions about this article, I need to read it.
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Old Apr 14, 2008 | 07:52 PM
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Not to mention, what tires were these various cars running?
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Old Apr 14, 2008 | 07:54 PM
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what is this robi spec sway bar? its a front I assume... anyone have info on it, checked their site, nada.
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Old Apr 14, 2008 | 07:58 PM
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I'm already afraid of this article. I wonder if every car was corner balanced, aligned and tuned, as probably 95% of the people who buy coilovers don't do all that. Secondly, lap times on cars that aren't equal, are pretty much pointless. Subjective evaluations from a single, knowledgeable driver are probably the way to go for a comparison like this.
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