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View Poll Results: What tires (primary) do you use?
Hankook R-S3 255
46.73%
Hankook R-S3 245
4.21%
Dunlop Star Spec 255
22.43%
Dunlop Star Spec 245
5.14%
Toyo R1R 245
0
0%
Toyo R1R 255
0
0%
Other
18.22%
BFG Rival 255
2.80%
BFG Rival 245
0.47%
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STR Prep - Wheels and Tires

Old 11-04-2011, 11:45 AM
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255 Hankook RS3's

My concensus after weighing the wheels was something like 17.5-18 lbs using a bathroom scale. Came mounted, so that was after subtracting the weight of the tires based on Tireracks published RS3 weights. Obviously potential for error.
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ok i am pretty novice and know my car prep isn't even started but i have a question yall might be able to help me with. basically a stock ap1 with a ct-eng intake stock EVERYTHING else

I am running a 17x8 +45 wheel (team dynamic about 17.5 ish lbs) and 255 hankook rs3.

the question is how much performance am i losing out on by not using a 17x9 wheel? is it worth the extra thousand bucks at this point to buy another set of wheels or should i focus my VERY limited funds toward shocks/springs this coming season? (tires look great and have amazing grip, will try to get a second season out of them so +700 to suspension fund!)
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Originally Posted by THE_Loser View Post
ok i am pretty novice and know my car prep isn't even started but i have a question yall might be able to help me with. basically a stock ap1 with a ct-eng intake stock EVERYTHING else

I am running a 17x8 +45 wheel (team dynamic about 17.5 ish lbs) and 255 hankook rs3.

the question is how much performance am i losing out on by not using a 17x9 wheel? is it worth the extra thousand bucks at this point to buy another set of wheels or should i focus my VERY limited funds toward shocks/springs this coming season? (tires look great and have amazing grip, will try to get a second season out of them so +700 to suspension fund!)
The TR Motorsport C3 wheels are only $636 plus shipping.

I would go for the shocks/springs first. Even with stock OEM wheels the difference with good shocks/springs will be very significant.
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I am building a list of wheels to put into the poll at the beginning of this thread. Below is what I have so far. Did I miss any of significance? The weights came from manufacturer and retailer web pages. The Volk weight is a guess, anyone know the Volk weight?

949 Racing 6ULR (17x9 +63) 17 lbs
TR Motorsports C3 (17x9 +62) 18.8 lbs
TSW Nurburgring (17x9 +63) 19.2 lbs
Enkei Racing PF01 (17x9 +60) 17.2 lbs
Volk Racing CE28n (17x9 +63) 14 lbs
Honda AP2 Rear x 4 (17x8.5 +65)
Honda AP2 Stock Wheels (17x7.5 +55 and 17x8.5 +65)
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I think your Volk weight is a little optimistic. I know that Glagola had them at one point and I think they were closer to 16 lbs, not 14. I think the Buddy Club wheel is in the 14 lb range though.

As far as the polls go, I don't know if they will remain useful overtime. Unless it gets purged, it wont reflect current trends, or the trends over time. For instance, if someone comes into this thread a year or two from now, and the new hotness is a Bridgestone tire, but the poll indicates that the Dunlop and the Hankook are still the favorite tire due to what people have been running for the last year, they have been mislead by data that is no longer relevant. Of course digging into these threads will reflect what is going on, but I think that they could be counterproductive.

I do like the idea of the polls, since it's immediately useable information, but if it's not accurate, that's an issue. Perhaps the first post in each of these threads could be a summary or reflection of the current trends, and the moderator having the ability to update it periodically as major things happen - like when a new tire becomes the tire to have.
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Originally Posted by THE_Loser View Post
ok i am pretty novice and know my car prep isn't even started but i have a question yall might be able to help me with. basically a stock ap1 with a ct-eng intake stock EVERYTHING else

I am running a 17x8 +45 wheel (team dynamic about 17.5 ish lbs) and 255 hankook rs3.

the question is how much performance am i losing out on by not using a 17x9 wheel? is it worth the extra thousand bucks at this point to buy another set of wheels or should i focus my VERY limited funds toward shocks/springs this coming season? (tires look great and have amazing grip, will try to get a second season out of them so +700 to suspension fund!)
Keep in mind you can sell your current wheels.

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I am building a list of wheels to put into the poll at the beginning of this thread. Below is what I have so far. Did I miss any of significance? The weights came from manufacturer and retailer web pages. The Volk weight is a guess, anyone know the Volk weight?

949 Racing 6ULR (17x9 +63) 17 lbs
TR Motorsports C3 (17x9 +62) 18.8 lbs
TSW Nurburgring (17x9 +63) 19.2 lbs
Enkei Racing PF01 (17x9 +60) 17.2 lbs
Volk Racing CE28n (17x9 +63) 14 lbs
Honda AP2 Rear x 4 (17x8.5 +65)
Honda AP2 Stock Wheels (17x7.5 +55 and 17x8.5 +65)
Buddy Club P1 Racing QF (17x9 +63) 14.5 lbs [discontinued]
Volk RE30 (17x9 +63) unsure of weight but looks like about 16 lbs
Volk TE37 (17x9 +63) 17 lbs


According to wheelweights.net the CE28n is 14.8lbs.
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Originally Posted by mLeach View Post
As far as the polls go, I don't know if they will remain useful overtime. Unless it gets purged, it wont reflect current trends, or the trends over time. For instance, if someone comes into this thread a year or two from now, and the new hotness is a Bridgestone tire, but the poll indicates that the Dunlop and the Hankook are still the favorite tire due to what people have been running for the last year, they have been mislead by data that is no longer relevant. Of course digging into these threads will reflect what is going on, but I think that they could be counterproductive.

I do like the idea of the polls, since it's immediately useable information, but if it's not accurate, that's an issue. Perhaps the first post in each of these threads could be a summary or reflection of the current trends, and the moderator having the ability to update it periodically as major things happen - like when a new tire becomes the tire to have.
I agree, but it's better than nothing. Also people should realize that they can update their vote and it'd be ideal if they did. Of course people that end up leaving the class will always have a not updating vote.

What might work in the long term is having a new thread for wheels/tires on a yearly basis, i.e. "the 2012 STR Wheels/Tires thread"
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Agree that the poll can become stale. The new forum allows the poll to be edited, so it can be restarted or completely scrapped and new questions entered.

If there is a new tire or wheel it can be added as answer. It would probably be good to just reset the poll and restart the data one per year. A screen shot could be captured and added to the first post at the time of reset or update to capture the prior stats.

We'll just have to try it and see how it works out.
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Old 11-06-2011, 07:21 AM
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Added poll question for wheels. If you voted on the tires prior then you will need to delete your vote and vote for both tires and wheels.

If you see that a wheel of significance is missing please post the information.


Thanks for the wheel info Jon (IntegraR0064).
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I've noticed most of the STR guys run less rear camber than what would be ideal for say driving a road course. Is that for additional traction when out of turns?
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