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Old Mar 28, 2006 | 10:30 PM
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Looking to purchase a good set of coilovers. If I get a premium set of coilovers would this eliminate the need to upgrade the front sway bar?

Anyone know what's the lightest premiun coilover set out there?
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Old Mar 28, 2006 | 11:10 PM
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Originally Posted by simons2k,Mar 28 2006, 11:30 PM
Looking to purchase a good set of coilovers. If I get a premium set of coilovers would this eliminate the need to upgrade the front sway bar?
What'chu talkin' 'bout, Willis?
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Old Mar 28, 2006 | 11:31 PM
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^^To clarify, I was told by a friend if you're running track quality coilovers, you're good to go with oem sways. I guess with premium track quality coilovers, you're not going to get much body lean, therefore, eliminating the need to upgrade the sway. Hope this makes sense.

Just trying to sort out the S for the track without going overboard with $$.
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Old Mar 28, 2006 | 11:44 PM
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It all depends on variables you haven't mentioned yet. What size of tires are you running? What type of tires? How do you want the car to handle? Etc.

For what it's worth, I've been tracking the car for several years with not only the OEM sway bars but also the OEM coilovers as well. But I'm using the OEM tire sizes, so I haven't needed to really tweak anything too much to compensate.
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Old Mar 29, 2006 | 12:04 AM
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Variables: running oem ap2 wheels and tires, want it to handle well on the track (minimal body roll mainly). I will be going with wider tire sizes when needed 225 front, 255 or 275 rear.

I'll be okay with a track setup for daily driving as well, as the S is my daily driver.

Am I missing anything else?
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Old Mar 29, 2006 | 04:05 AM
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There are more variables.

1) You are changing the spring rates. (What are they?)
2) I assume you are lowering it, which will change center of gravity and roll center.

My suggestion is to put the coilovers on and do some testing. See how the car handles. Then change a component if necessary to correct bad behavior.
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Old Mar 29, 2006 | 07:27 AM
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Originally Posted by Conedodger,Mar 29 2006, 05:05 AM
There are more variables.

1) You are changing the spring rates. (What are they?)
2) I assume you are lowering it, which will change center of gravity and roll center.

My suggestion is to put the coilovers on and do some testing. See how the car handles. Then change a component if necessary to correct bad behavior.
Good advice. Makes sense. I'm new to all this tracking stuff so I'll be asking some, what might appear stupid questions but I'll learn and get better along the way. I just learned the difference between "roll center" and "center of gravity"

Looks like I squared away a deal on some Buddy Club race spec coilovers. Are these any good? Not sure what the spring rate is. You guys might know based on that desription.

I will be putting the coilovers on first, have it corner balanced, aligned and then we'll see
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Old Mar 29, 2006 | 09:13 AM
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Without the spring rate info (and even with it) it would be impossible for us to say. What you need to do is simply hit a skid pad after your install of the shocks. You'll use the skid pad to discover your roll couple (the difference in body roll of the front and rear). You should be getting a slight push around the skid pad. If not, you can either correct the roll couple with a sway bar adjustment (in your case a new bar) or you can change the spring rates.

It is possible your front bar is ok but who knows with out testing?
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Old Mar 29, 2006 | 02:01 PM
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before I spent any money on my coilovers, or brakes, or my sway bar, or my Rcomps... I spent 1000 dollars on track events. It help me decide what I wanted to fix on my car... not to make it go faster, but what to change so I could have more fun on the track.... and in doing so I got a little faster

seriously... if you want the most out of your money do a couple events then start buying shit
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Old Mar 29, 2006 | 02:07 PM
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