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Tie Bars/ strut bars needed if full rollcage?

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Old Nov 17, 2003 | 02:02 PM
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Originally posted by krazik
I can attest that my 4 pt welded in bar that attaches to the frame at the rear shock towers has made no percievable difference w/ the rigity of my car.

I'll report on if I notice anything when I complete the cage in december.


The section that makes the difference is where the firewall/frontal section of the cabin is connected to the rear.
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Old Nov 17, 2003 | 02:06 PM
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[QUOTE]Originally posted by jerrypeterson
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Old Nov 17, 2003 | 02:29 PM
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Just to stir the pot a bit more...

I think the question is fundamentally flawed. Do I "need" X if I have Y? In the case of high-octane gas in the presence of high compression, then the answer is probably yes.

But the question of whether or not a person "needs" whatever ft-lb./degree increase in rigidity that might come from a couple bolt-on parts, and whether or not that person has any chance of perceiving it with stock-sized wheels and the soft stock rubber bushings, well...that's another question. Do I need more power? Do I need more grip? Do I need a stiffer chassis? These are things that almost universally it is better to have more of, but whether or not you need one more than another really just depends on how you want to go about making your car faster.

Chassis rigidity is a good thing. If I were looking for some well thought out things I could do to increase rigidity, I'd mimic what Honda did for the '04s.

Just my $.02...
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Old Nov 17, 2003 | 02:40 PM
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[QUOTE]Originally posted by vapors2k
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Old Nov 17, 2003 | 02:42 PM
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Of course it does, as should any well driven car. Use every inch of pavement.
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Old Nov 17, 2003 | 02:52 PM
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[QUOTE]Originally posted by Muz
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Old Nov 17, 2003 | 03:21 PM
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[QUOTE]Originally posted by jerrypeterson
Torsion of the frame in this section would cause the body panels to bind where the doors, windshield frame, and fenders intersect.
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Old Nov 17, 2003 | 03:58 PM
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[QUOTE]Originally posted by krazik
Of course it does, as should any well driven car.
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Old Nov 17, 2003 | 04:08 PM
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i am not going to read all of that...i lost interest after 2-3 posts....

I will be racing my S2000.....weight is the enemy.... my simple question should have been.... is it worth the weight of the strut bars and tie bars, x-braces in real racing.....with a full rollcage.?

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Old Nov 17, 2003 | 04:11 PM
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