I have been reading on what to use for track pads. Since my S2K is a daily driver, I am going to use the Panter + pads all the time.

I ran a lapping days at the track this weekend on the OEM pads...they lasted, but I have pretty bad fade now. I was expecting this though. I am going to flush the brake fluid and switch to the panther pads, but i am looking for advice on which fluid to use?

Anyone have any comments?

Here is what I have done/doing to the car:
KUMHO Victorracers
Comptech Adjustable Front bar
Koni Yellows
and I do a lot of late braking

This car is autox'ed about 90% of the (racing) time, but I had a so much fun on a full track, I will probably do it more. Also, where do I get the panther pads and how much?

Thanks

 

The Carbotech P+ will work very well for both aggressive street and/or track driving. However, it will be too strong for auto-x.

If you are auto-x-ing 90% of the time, driving on the street some of the time, and going to the track, I have the following solution for you...it may seen complicated, but we do it often for customers who participate in different types of events.

AUTO-X SETUP
FRONT 913 KELATED METALLIC
REAR AXXIS ULTIMATE

STREET AND TRACK SETUP
FRONT PANTHER PLUS
REAR AXXIS ULTIMATE

Therefore, you will keep the Axxis Ultimate in the rear all the time, and for street/track driving, you use the P+ in front, and when you go to auto-x events, you swap out the front P+'s for the 913 KM.

With Best Regards,

Andie Lin

 

Although the P+ pads will work on the street, I find they are a bit too dirty and noisy for me. I use them on the track but switch back to Stock or R4S on the street. The Ate fluid is a reasonably cost effective way to go but I have found I need to bleed after each track day and suggest a full change every quarter.

 

For brake fluid, many of us use Ate Super Blue.

Ate Typ 200 is identical, but gold instead of blue.

Ate is often favored because it has good temp ratings AND low moisture absorbtion. Some high temp race fluids absorb moisture quickly and are designed to be purged very frequently.

For Track/Street applications, you might not want to change your fluid every week

 

PFD,
Can you get the ATE brake fluid at a local parts house?

Also, I have not bought stock pads for the S2000, how much are they?

Andie, why do you say the panthers plus are to strong for autox? Just wondering.

Chip

 

[QUOTE]Originally posted by iispms
[B]PFD,
Can you get the ATE brake fluid at a local parts house?

Also, I have not bought stock pads for the S2000, how much are they?

Andie, why do you say the panthers plus are to strong for autox?

 

Thanks Andie.

how do the 913's hold up on the street? I really do not want to be switching pads before an autocross. I do a lot more autox's then I do track days. Which would you recommend for this?

Chip

 

iispms, the soft pedal that you feel after a track event is most likely the pads. The stock pad's contact surface is "glazed" from overheating and requires more pedal effort to get any bite. Depending on how bad the glazing is, the bite may return after a few days of normal driving. More agressive pads, like P+ typically do not glaze over. Replacing brake fluid with something better is a good idea, but you don't have to buy the $100 a gallon stuff! I've had good luck with Valvoline Synthetic dot 4 and P+. Regular bleeding (5 - 10 good squirts per corner) after each track weekend, is a good idea.

 

[QUOTE]Originally posted by iispms
[B]Thanks Andie.

how do the 913's hold up on the street?

 

I think that might be a better option, as I am not racing on the track that often.

Thanks for the input.

Chip