So, what's ATCO, downhill?

 

[QUOTE]Originally posted by S4_dukar
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Whats the gearing on the CL-S vs the Mustang?

I know the Mustang definitely has a torque advantage over the CL.

 

[QUOTE]Originally posted by KleeftonSi
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Well I said the CL has better gearing because it's a 6 speed. And it makes about 232lb/ft of torque, so there's plenty of torque. The Mustang makes about 300lbs/ft, correct me if I'm wrong, but too much torque is not always your friend if you can't hook.

 

I'm not going to check the CL gear ratios, but knowing how Mustangs are geared from the factory I'm confident the CL has more agressive gearing, and the extra gear has something to do with it. I'm sure.

I suppose the Mustang makes up for the lack of gearing with the extra torque though.

But still, I think these cars will run very close to each other, with a slight edge to the mustang, but I'd expect the CL to pull the longer the race goes.

Also, 95mph is very low for a low 14 sec car on average. I know it has to do with 60', but a 14.1 ET usually lands a 97mph trap speed.

99mph is also VERY low for a mid 13 sec car. Even the top end lacking and traction happy WRX's usually trap over 100mph when they run a mid 13.

I know it has to do somewhat with the 60', but I still think the traps are crazy low for each respective car. He did mention it was humid that day, and that usually affects trap speeds of NA cars mostly.

 

[QUOTE]Originally posted by KleeftonSi
[B]I'm not going to check the CL gear ratios, but knowing how Mustangs are geared from the factory I'm confident the CL has more agressive gearing, and the extra gear has something to do with it. I'm sure.

 

2003 Acura CL Gear Ratios:
1st - 3.933
2nd - 2.478
3rd - 1.700
4th - 1.250
5th - 0.976
6th - 0.771
Reverse - 4.008
Final Drive - 3.286

2001 Mustang GT Gear Ratios:

1st - 3.37
2nd - 1.99
3rd - 1.33
4th - 1.00
5th - 0.67
Rev. - 3.22

 

it is FWD there is no way it is going to hook up like a mustang. Look at all the published 0-60 times for the type-S vs a mustang GT no contest. A fwd car will never hook up as good as RWD car. So what you are gonna have is slower ET's and trap speeds that match the RWD car. This is always the case. Why do you think really fast FWD cars run huge slicks in the front at like 5 psi with wheelie bars to try and push the nose down. Every car will rock backwards when you gun it. If you driving wheels are in front you are un-weighting them. If the type-s was RWD it would run in the high 13's no problem. A 14.1 is really good for a fairly high powered FWD car.

 

[QUOTE]Originally posted by S4_dukar
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The fact that it has 1 more extra gear over the mustang doesnt always prove to be an advantage.

It allows the gears to be closer together and allows for a much taller final drive gear.

 

[QUOTE]Originally posted by LateApex
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6 speeds allow for a SHORTER (numerically higher) final drive.

 

if you guys are wigging about 13.6 what is the average 1/4 mi time of a S2k?