well today was an interesting day. I took out my g/f out for a nice drive through Malibu and its surrounding area, i was headed north on PCH when i pull up to the infamous stoplight where the Supra raced the Ferarri in the "Fast and the Furious". well as coincidence would have it two 20-something guys roll up along side me in a new Red S2K. I spent a second admiring the car (a gorgeous car it is) and they spent a second admiring my girl, i was totally ready to let that slide until he started to rev a bit. well from that point it was on, there were no cops in sight and i figured i would give him a go. Launch was pretty even, he took a small lead due to me spinning the tires a bit too much, it was close until we hit the hill that starts about 60 feet after the light, that is where the S2k lost the fight, it seemed to bog (for lack of a better word) going up the hill. So anyway, i pulled about 4 car lengths up to about 90 which is when i shut down, but remember it was up hill and the S2K's lack of torque showed. Ok, this may not be the best choice for my 1st post here on the board but i thought i'd share.

 

Let the flaming begin!!!

 

No flaming anticipated. Considering that M3 and S2K stock-for-stock are nearly identical in acceleration, I find it pretty easy to believe that a _modified_ M3 will kill an S2K _uphill_, with a passanger in each car (less of an impact on an M3, more on the S2K), especially if the passanger in the S2K is a male and in M3 a female (assuming MpowrdBimmer's girfriend is not overweight, which sounds unlikely since the other guys were admiring her...).

Good kill.

 

I just wonder if I'm supposed to be going to all the boards of cars I've beaten and post the stories there. I just am new to how this all works.

A win's a win, but what do you really want to get from posting it here?

 

yeah especially if your subject says "another one bites the dust"

 

[QUOTE]Originally posted by Wesmaster
[B]I just wonder if I'm supposed to be going to all the boards of cars I've beaten and post the stories there.

 

[QUOTE]Originally posted by glen5839
[B]

The Beamer boards don't have a large enough database for me to ALL my Beamer kills.

 

Can anyone be bothered to explain why they think accelerating up a hill would give more of an advantage to one car vs. another?

I'm talking physics here people. Both cars have the same weight as they did before they hit the hill, both cars have the same power and are running in the same part of the curve as they would have if they were on flat ground. The only thing that has changed is the gravity vector relative to the velocity vector - and its the same for both cars. IOW, "the lack of torque" doesn't matter.

That said, a 3.2 liter M3 with boltons should be a bit quicker, as our old buddy maddog will attest to, but 4 car lengths after being behind off the line?

UL

 

Yeah, I thought about this. I couldn't come up with a reason. HP is measured in the ability to move a measured weight. The change in angle of the road will change the weight (I'm sure there's a better term) the car has to push, since gravity is now fighting even more. But, this doesn't change the definition of torque and HP. So, the HP can still push X weight, Y distance, in Z seconds, it's just pushing more weight.

 

Geeze, there we go with the torque thing again. When someone tells me my car is crap because it doesn't have torque like them big American V-8's, I ask them why my "no-torque" car has the same 0-60 and 1/4 mile times as a Mustang Cobra? They usually shut right up.

Uphill, downhill, sideways, it doesn't matter. Nobody get's an edge because of terrain (not counting bumps).

Yea, something's not right here, as it should have been the other way around.