Correct me if I'm wrong, but shouldn't an N/A S with gears be even if not pull a bit on a stock M3?

 

what does a stock AP1 w/gears run 0-60?
i believe the stock ///M runs like 4.9. Also remember that w/smg, he has launch control - basically you can mash the gas (it pegs at 2900) and hold the gear in 1st. When you engage the gear, the computer launches w/minimal wheel spin. So basically you have to nail your launch or he'll take you off the line and by the time you make up that ground, you'll be at 80 (///M3s powerband 3rd gear) and it could be tough.

But since you're juiced w/a bunch of goodies, I think you'll have the edge - as long as your tires hookup immediately when you launch.

 

Doubt it. IMO, gears are not enough. That s/c should do nicely though.

 

Gears alone would make this a very close race. A supercharger at 7 psi and gears? I cannot see you losing. In fact, you should pull easily.

 

gears alone aren't enough to make it a close race. Maybe respectable (1-2 cars) but not close. And after 80, it'll just be a runaway for the ///M. Gears hurt your top speed and the ///M has more displacement anyway so it'll take you on the top.

With a juiced setup, the S will gain some much needed Torque and higher top end so it should pretty much win from the start. Again, this is assuming the S2k driver knows how to launch and can hookup the tires when the clutch drops.

 

Consider yourself corrected then...I will spank the daylights out of any S2000 with just gears although my car is a 6MT. A geared S2000 might hang through most of 2nd but it should be over after that vs. a stock M3. SMG is a tad slower to 60mph than the 6MT but still should have no problem with a non FI'd S2000. Look at the trap speeds of the S and the M3...not really close. My car is stock except for software and I shed some weight and expect to hit 110mph my next outting in Gainesville...an S2000 needs FI to approach 110mph in the quarter.

 

to the s2000, I mean yea the s2000 has all the right mods for a m3 kill but have you guys seen this guy drive? The guy in the m3 is even worse, but he has a stupid proof car. Yea,, both these guys, i've seen them drive, and I dont know. Anyways.... Hout bang and wayne!!

 

Very funny Rich coming from a guy that likes to drop gears on the highway from 5th to 2nd.Haha.. Just kidding fool.

E46fan I've got about 75k on my odometer and believe me after 3 clutches I can launch the car pretty good. I gotta get a new clutch setup before I run an smg or 6 spd m3.

 

Stock vs stock of course an m3 will take an s2k no problem. I personally only like running cars in the same roadster class. Although i remember both me and my buddy, i had exhaust and intake, We both down shift to 4th on the highway and he could only pull when i shift up to 5th. M3's are great cars. Itb's, na with 3000cc displacement, you can't go wrong with an m.

 

I think you are underestimating an S with gears. Yes, the M should pull more and more in the top end, but it would be close probably up to 4th.

110 mph is very impressive. Also, when you mention software and weight reduction, can you be more specific? That is a pretty broad statement, as my software gave me 10-15 whp in the midrange from 4000- 7500 rpm. Software can do a lot my friend. I was referring to a bone stock M3.