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Old Aug 31, 2007 | 04:02 PM
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Originally Posted by NFRTurboTerror,Aug 30 2007, 07:39 PM
Did you read his mods? Seems about right to me.
he's got gears, basically. Gears don't make up for a 90 hp deficit. Neither does full exhaust.

The SRT-6 runs low 13's to high 12's with ~107-110 trap speeds. Gears and exhuast are not going to put an S2000 even close to that. I'm not being rude here. A car with only a 50 hp advantage will put the smack on you. When the difference is 100 hp, it's so much easier for the faster car to walk away even without pushing it 100%.

As far as the weight difference, presume it is 400 lbs. as the worst case. A general rule of thumb says if you add 10 pounds, you need to add 1 hp to keep it from slowing you down in a 1/4 mile. The SRT-6 has 90 more horsepower. That's very roughly like another S2000 with 300 crank going against a stock S2k with just full exhaust and gears. What do you really think it would look like, if not a total mismatch?

Assuming the real weight of an SRT-6 is between 2900 and 3200, I really don't see the OP's car within a car of the SRT-6 in an all-out race.
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Old Aug 31, 2007 | 05:28 PM
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Originally Posted by GT_2003,Aug 31 2007, 04:02 PM
he's got gears, basically. Gears don't make up for a 90 hp deficit. Neither does full exhaust.

The SRT-6 runs low 13's to high 12's with ~107-110 trap speeds. Gears and exhuast are not going to put an S2000 even close to that. I'm not being rude here. A car with only a 50 hp advantage will put the smack on you. When the difference is 100 hp, it's so much easier for the faster car to walk away even without pushing it 100%.

As far as the weight difference, presume it is 400 lbs. as the worst case. A general rule of thumb says if you add 10 pounds, you need to add 1 hp to keep it from slowing you down in a 1/4 mile. The SRT-6 has 90 more horsepower. That's very roughly like another S2000 with 300 crank going against a stock S2k with just full exhaust and gears. What do you really think it would look like, if not a total mismatch?

Assuming the real weight of an SRT-6 is between 2900 and 3200, I really don't see the OP's car within a car of the SRT-6 in an all-out race.
I agree.
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Old Aug 31, 2007 | 06:03 PM
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The SRT-6 runs low 13's to high 12's with ~107-110 trap speeds.
On Mars with low gravity maybe...they're not quite as quick as an E46 M3 and they certainly don't trap at 110 mph.
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Old Aug 31, 2007 | 10:56 PM
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Originally Posted by derryck,Aug 31 2007, 06:03 PM
On Mars with low gravity maybe...they're not quite as quick as an E46 M3 and they certainly don't trap at 110 mph.
um, it's a few hundred pounds lighter, makes the same power, but somehow "not quite as quick as an E46 M3," you say? Got any facts to base your opinion on? Are you suggesting that every single ET and trap speed I could find for an M3 would be faster than any I could find for an SRT-6? Or only that any internet evidence that puts the SRT-6 faster than an M3 is suspect purely because it conflicts with your preconceived notions?

A simple search for Crossfire traps brings up a variety of results. The high end is irrelevant, as the low end is more than fast enough to make my point. Not sure what your point is Nobody was comparing the Crossfire SRT-6 to an M3 but you, so wtf? Newsflash: The E46 M3 isn't the fastest car in the world :/
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Old Sep 1, 2007 | 12:43 AM
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ladies....chill....

http://www.dragtimes.com/Chrysler--Crossfi...rag-Racing.html

simple visit to dragtimes tells me the srt6 stock traps around 106mph (few higher) which is pretty much the same as an e46 m3
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Old Sep 1, 2007 | 01:01 AM
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still slow.
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Old Sep 1, 2007 | 06:03 AM
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Newsflash: The E46 M3 isn't the fastest car in the world
Thanks for the newsflash...I have seen both run at Gainesville and never have I sen an SRT trap at 110...or even 109 or 108 or 107mph, that's just my personal experience of course. Most of those cars trapping at 110mph are running aftermarket pulleys and/or exhausts and/or water/alcohol injection...I'm assuming you're aware of the impact an aftermarket pulley has on a supercharged car right? A 2.80 pulley picked up gobs of power on my 03 Cobra...
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Old Sep 1, 2007 | 08:18 AM
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[QUOTE=derryck,Sep 1 2007, 06:03 AM]
Thanks for the newsflash...I have seen both run at Gainesville and never have I sen an SRT trap at 110...or even 109 or 108 or 107mph, that's just my personal experience of course.
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Old Sep 1, 2007 | 09:52 AM
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good fun, sounds right I think all you guys who think the srt should of won by miles didn't remember that upon his launch he wasn't really launching. Anyhow ANYTHING can happen on the streets lol. Drag = the faster car wins, or faster person in some cases but with all things equal faster car. Take it to the track and see whos the better driver but if that doesn't end all argument

FI s2k > srt-6 > s2k
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Old Sep 1, 2007 | 10:08 AM
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When I go to test & tune days, I'm not racing anyone. I'm working on my launch, my shifting, or my reaction times. There might be a guy next to me, but who cares as long as he doesn't hit me. If I beat him to the end, great.
I agree 100% but when I go to the track I also speak to the other drivers and often inquire as to what they're doing. I also understand that tracks have a HUGE impact on a cars performance....take LACR a notoriously slow track vs. Englishtown a notoriously fast track. I live in Florida and generally run at Gainesville but have been to Morroso a few times as well. I also agree that one particular car on one particular pass is not indicative of what the car is capable of...only that driver. However, saying that an SRT 6 is capable of trapping at 110mph and not mentioning that they're modified cars is misleading at the very least. I have been to the track enough times...spoken to enough drivers and seen enough passes that I know SRT 6's don't trap anywhere close to 110mph in stock trim. If you've been to the track much then you know a 4mph differential in trap speed is a pretty big difference.
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