M3 - even
I'm not much for street racing - but occasionally if someone messes with me I'll mess back.
I was cruising home yesterday and a very nice new BMW M3 was near me. Neither of us was driving aggressively - but obviously we'd noticed each others cars.
We came up to a stoplight with me directly behind him. I thought about pulling over into the empty lane next to him - but that would have been an obvious call-out to race and I didn't really want to do that.
Anyway - the light turned green and I kept it in first gear a bit longer than usual thinking that he might be inclined to show off... and I was right. At about 15mph he punched it and as soon as I saw him starting to pull away I did the same. We ran up to about 70mph - just barely into 3rd gear - and I decided that was enough and I backed off.
I couldn't definitively say that I was catching up to him - but he was DEFINITELY flooring it and he was DEFINITELY NOT pulling an inch away from me once we got going.
I was very impressed... proof enough for me that an M3 is no faster than an S2k ('01 - stock except for an AEM V2 intake)
I was cruising home yesterday and a very nice new BMW M3 was near me. Neither of us was driving aggressively - but obviously we'd noticed each others cars.
We came up to a stoplight with me directly behind him. I thought about pulling over into the empty lane next to him - but that would have been an obvious call-out to race and I didn't really want to do that.
Anyway - the light turned green and I kept it in first gear a bit longer than usual thinking that he might be inclined to show off... and I was right. At about 15mph he punched it and as soon as I saw him starting to pull away I did the same. We ran up to about 70mph - just barely into 3rd gear - and I decided that was enough and I backed off.
I couldn't definitively say that I was catching up to him - but he was DEFINITELY flooring it and he was DEFINITELY NOT pulling an inch away from me once we got going.
I was very impressed... proof enough for me that an M3 is no faster than an S2k ('01 - stock except for an AEM V2 intake)
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Eh - I dunno about the other driver's skill etc - but there is no way he was accelerating that fast without giving it all he had.
If it had been a 'vette or something that is truly in a different league from the S I could believe that he was basically pacing me by watching in his mirror.
Anyway - I don't care if you're convinced... I am
I just thought ya might like to hear about it
ETA: I think it was an E46 - it definitely had those little vents behind the front tires
If it had been a 'vette or something that is truly in a different league from the S I could believe that he was basically pacing me by watching in his mirror.
Anyway - I don't care if you're convinced... I am

I just thought ya might like to hear about it

ETA: I think it was an E46 - it definitely had those little vents behind the front tires
I found an article where they reviewed (and gave stats on) one HERE.
It looks to be pretty comparable to the S2k power-wise... maybe sliiiightly faster.
It has 330hp at 3781 pounds (the hard top I raced might have been heavier) compared to the S2000's 240hp at 2800lbs.
So it is 0.088hp/lb compared to my 0.086 hp/lb... that's a 1.82% difference... which is insignificant when you consider factors like driver skill etc.
ETA: Turns out the hard top is actually about 400 lbs lighter - which brings the hp/weight difference to 12.7%. That's much more significant but still explains the encounter within reason.
It looks to be pretty comparable to the S2k power-wise... maybe sliiiightly faster.
It has 330hp at 3781 pounds (the hard top I raced might have been heavier) compared to the S2000's 240hp at 2800lbs.
So it is 0.088hp/lb compared to my 0.086 hp/lb... that's a 1.82% difference... which is insignificant when you consider factors like driver skill etc.
ETA: Turns out the hard top is actually about 400 lbs lighter - which brings the hp/weight difference to 12.7%. That's much more significant but still explains the encounter within reason.


