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From: Austin
You can't just write a guide on launching, since it varies so greatly with conditions.
Actually, I'm not all that sure the Z has great handling at all...The Z club had a hill country drive, and invited a few of the S2000 owners to go along. One of the guys (An awesome driver and instructor) had his car in the shop, so was in a rental car, and he managed to out drive all the Z's.
Blake
(Maybe I should mention this rental car was a Jaquar S-Type...
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Originally posted by SHIRI
Wis would also tell you that the Z is a faster car (with the same driver), period.
The only time it is not faster than the S is through tight corners, better for the smaller and light S (for which it was designed for), no good for the bigger and heavier Z (for which it was not designed for).
Wis would also tell you that the Z is a faster car (with the same driver), period.
The only time it is not faster than the S is through tight corners, better for the smaller and light S (for which it was designed for), no good for the bigger and heavier Z (for which it was not designed for).
Blake
(Maybe I should mention this rental car was a Jaquar S-Type...
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Originally posted by DJAuggie
I didn't realize owning a s2000 is a requirement to post on this forum or on ANY forum but I could be wrong.
I didn't realize owning a s2000 is a requirement to post on this forum or on ANY forum but I could be wrong.
At no time did I imply you have to meet "requirements" to post here. Far from it. I'm just scratching my head a little when I see some your posts. I'm sure many others are too. ALL car enthusiasts are welcome here but most of us generally have at least the underlying enthusiasm for the S2000, thus the name of the forum - "s2ki.com"
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Originally posted by DJAuggie
I am a car enthusiast foremost. I make comments on the subject at hand. I have never had as much issue in a forum than this forum. Your right, I love my car and I will stand by it. However, the term "bragging" is really not the right word to be using. I have never pushed the fact that my car is this or that without at least posting some valid facts at least in my mind. I apologize if some of my posts where I tell some kid that his civic hatch didnt take down a supra by 13 car lengths or whatever is BS because that's just my honest opinion. I am sure other people would agree that as well. It's a damn shame that someone can feel unwanted to discuss friggin cars because he he has his own opinions and values nor doesn't own a s2000 or want one. That's the vibe I get here. This is starting to be a consitant thing so I guess it's not worth it to post. Sorry is about as all as I can say.
I am a car enthusiast foremost. I make comments on the subject at hand. I have never had as much issue in a forum than this forum. Your right, I love my car and I will stand by it. However, the term "bragging" is really not the right word to be using. I have never pushed the fact that my car is this or that without at least posting some valid facts at least in my mind. I apologize if some of my posts where I tell some kid that his civic hatch didnt take down a supra by 13 car lengths or whatever is BS because that's just my honest opinion. I am sure other people would agree that as well. It's a damn shame that someone can feel unwanted to discuss friggin cars because he he has his own opinions and values nor doesn't own a s2000 or want one. That's the vibe I get here. This is starting to be a consitant thing so I guess it's not worth it to post. Sorry is about as all as I can say.
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From: Irvine
[QUOTE]Originally posted by infinitebass
[B]You can't just write a guide on launching, since it varies so greatly with conditions.
Actually, I'm not all that sure the Z has great handling at all...The Z club had a hill country drive, and invited a few of the S2000 owners to go along. One of the guys (An awesome driver and instructor) had his car in the shop, so was in a rental car, and he managed to out drive all the Z's.
[B]You can't just write a guide on launching, since it varies so greatly with conditions.
Actually, I'm not all that sure the Z has great handling at all...The Z club had a hill country drive, and invited a few of the S2000 owners to go along. One of the guys (An awesome driver and instructor) had his car in the shop, so was in a rental car, and he managed to out drive all the Z's.
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From: Irvine
Originally posted by infinitebass
He said tight corners only. I was saying in general the handling isn't so good.
Blake
He said tight corners only. I was saying in general the handling isn't so good.
Blake
In general, stock handling sucks because the shocks are too soft for the springs. A lot of "boinga boinga boinga" which really unsettles the suspension. If the road is smooth, the handling is actually better than you think, until understeer starts limiting the handling.
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I hit 13.79 the first year I had the car stock. I hit slightly higher 13's after that. The first year, from june til the track closed I had gone to the track probably 5 or 6 times.
last year I only went twice, and only got 14 flat. But that was on 2.24 60' times.
SHIRI, the Z is faster from a higher speed ROLL. From a stop it's anyone's game. The Z's power takes over on the top end, above 80mph or so. But for some reason, the S2k seems to pull quicker than the Z from a stop. The first 2 gears that is. It seems to do with gearing and shift points, methinks. ???
As for launching, for me it doesn't seem too hard? If you find the right RPM, you never have to feather the gas. You can just keep it floored, which makes it easier, IMO, than a car that has so much torque you have to feather the gas to get it right.
S2k launching guidelines.... Front tire PSI around 32. Back tire PSI around 24-26. You have to find the right rpm launch point. When you launch, you should get a full 1-2 seconds of wheelspin. For me, it seems that when I THINK I had a little too much wheelspin, it actually was perfect. I've found my best 60' times on those instances. So you need to find a spot you dump the clutch at, and it gives you that full 1-2 seconds of wheelspin. And when the tires do hook up, your RPM should be right around 6000.
so that's the key. PSI in tires. 1-2 seconds wheelspin. and 6000rpm hookup once that 1-2 seconds of wheelspin is over. So really, you just have to find that optimal launch point for the conditions of the day.
last year I only went twice, and only got 14 flat. But that was on 2.24 60' times.
SHIRI, the Z is faster from a higher speed ROLL. From a stop it's anyone's game. The Z's power takes over on the top end, above 80mph or so. But for some reason, the S2k seems to pull quicker than the Z from a stop. The first 2 gears that is. It seems to do with gearing and shift points, methinks. ???
As for launching, for me it doesn't seem too hard? If you find the right RPM, you never have to feather the gas. You can just keep it floored, which makes it easier, IMO, than a car that has so much torque you have to feather the gas to get it right.
S2k launching guidelines.... Front tire PSI around 32. Back tire PSI around 24-26. You have to find the right rpm launch point. When you launch, you should get a full 1-2 seconds of wheelspin. For me, it seems that when I THINK I had a little too much wheelspin, it actually was perfect. I've found my best 60' times on those instances. So you need to find a spot you dump the clutch at, and it gives you that full 1-2 seconds of wheelspin. And when the tires do hook up, your RPM should be right around 6000.
so that's the key. PSI in tires. 1-2 seconds wheelspin. and 6000rpm hookup once that 1-2 seconds of wheelspin is over. So really, you just have to find that optimal launch point for the conditions of the day.