steve c

In fantasyland maybe. Most are low 14 / high 13 second cars, a few -- and I mean a very very few break into the mid 13's.

The convertible which weighs more is not going to run 13.5's stock ... ever.

Purple_sky

How could a 993, which only had ~270 hp, be almost as fast as a 996 (with ~320 hp)? 996's were low to mid 13-sec cars. The 993 was as fast as the old 270-hp NSX, which was basically high 13-sec car with traps of around 103.

Yes, both the 993 and old NSX would be faster than an S2000, but not by that much, and if not driven properly, they could lose. 993 was not as fast as you claimed.

Purple_sky

Hey, a Porsche owner concurs what I said.

Fishey

http://forums.rennlist.com/rennforums/show...ight=1%2F4+mile

That was a magazine reviewed times. You can also take a minute and look around more on the 993 section of rennlist.com and find that its not impossible and is actually very common.

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The 996 was actually lighter than the 993 and had more HP and torque. It probably boiled down to gearing, I would imagine.

In a street race with a rolling start, a 993 and a S2000 would be close if both were in the right gear.

steve c

I'm a member of rennlist. That does not change the above statement that most are low 14/high 13 second cars and that your heavier convertible did not and will not run a 13.5.

Fishey

Do you even know the weight diffrence between cab and coupe? Hell do you even know the diffrence between eurospec gearing and american?

Purple_sky

Here's a very fair comparison. NSX and 911 (non-turbo) have always had similar accelerations. When they had 270 hp, they both were high 13/low 14-second cars with similar trap speeds, and when they were 290-320 hp, they were both low 13-sec cars with similar trap speeds.

The 997 of course will be faster, but the NSX is being killed off soon. Maybe Honda will replace it, or maybe not. If the new one will come out again, I'd believe they once again will have similar accelerations, unless Honda went wild with it and gave it massive hp like 450+.

Fishey

So are you telling me a 3.4l 996 is faster then a 993? or are you talking purely about the 3.6l?

COSMOSIS

What I want to know is how another 35 hp in the 997 is dropping their 1/4 mile times by almost a whole second and raising the traps almost 10mph. Anybody read Road & Track this month, see that and say "WTF?"

Yeah, the 993 isn't quite as fast as a 996 (but it'smy favorite 911). I know, I've lost to both