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Old Nov 10, 2003 | 08:31 AM
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I guess the engine dyno is the least 'real' of the dynos, since it reports the highest numbers of them all.

Isn't that right, steve?
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Old Nov 10, 2003 | 08:39 AM
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Originally posted by ultimate lurker
220.x whp
this being said you can expect about 218-222 on a dynojet for 04's since 02-03 dyno at around 205-208

would you be testing 04's on dynojets for comparo?

since 220/240 is for 02's on your dyno then 240/270 for 04s that is a huge underrating by honda, but will see... the truth is we have to wait for more cars since there are some freak motors out there once in a while.

do you have pics of what your dyno looks like never seen one?
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Old Nov 10, 2003 | 09:00 AM
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I guess the engine dyno is the least 'real' of the dynos, since it reports the highest numbers of them all.

Isn't that right, steve?
No, but it does lead to some incorrect assumptions by folks who for instance believe their S2000 dyno from a Dynapack is making the same horsepower as say an M coupe run on a mustang or dynojet.

On paper they will have similar numbers, in reality they don't.

As I said earlier, the final output is really neither here nor there, comparing two cars run on different dynos is akin to comparing shoe sizes from four different makes. They may all be 12's, but they are all different sizes.

In the end the dyno should be used as a tool for tuning, and what matters is the relative gains or losses for a particular car, not how much power it puts down in comparison to another.
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Old Nov 10, 2003 | 09:29 AM
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Originally posted by steve c
In the end the dyno should be used as a tool for tuning, and what matters is the relative gains or losses for a particular car, not how much power it puts down in comparison to another.
You need to keep reading this steve, you've said it a couple times now, but your continued posting shows that you aren't comprending the words that you post.

That is all a dyno is. It's not a phallis measurement tool, tho lots would like that. Who cares if some idiot can't understand that his dyno on a dynopack isn't the same as his buddy's on a mustang dyno.


What's important here is that the 04 dyno'd over 20 hp more than an 02 on the same dyno at the same coolant temp.
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Old Nov 10, 2003 | 09:33 AM
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Yes, and what's more important is that you not make the leap of faith that so many have and believe that all 04's will dyno 20hp more than the pre 04's....which is in fact if you read back through my posts, my point.
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Old Nov 10, 2003 | 09:35 AM
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be it 16 or 25, it doesn't matter. It's a significant HP improvement.

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Old Nov 10, 2003 | 09:41 AM
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What does the JDM market (consumers, tuners, speed shops) think about the F22C?
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Old Nov 10, 2003 | 09:53 AM
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the question now is trade and loose for 4k or build with that 4k a turbo engine lol
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Old Nov 10, 2003 | 10:04 AM
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Any idea which engine will react better to boost, the 02 or the 04, since im in the process of boosting just wondering if it will yield better numbers than the 02. Im thinking of getting the bumpers front and rear as well as the tail lights and that alone can be in the range of 1.5 painted and all. add to that the 4.44 i want to put in 700ish and other changes here and there it might be worth it, but if this is all an ecu issue then with the aem i should be able to solve that. Anyone knows how the 8% increase in displacement will yield to mods like a super charger or turbo? thanks
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Old Nov 10, 2003 | 10:54 AM
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The compression ratio is slightly higer in the 2.2 L, which isn't good for running boost. I'll let those more knowledgeable on the subject post whether it's anything to really worry about.
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