2.2L....Why ruin a classic?
I like Beig's posts. I miss them.
It beat the heck out of the numerous "buy now or buy later" threads, not to mention the "I killed a 996 TT in my stock S2000 with winter tires and while towing my boat" threads.
His ideas concerned the meaning and future of the S2000 and I liked it. I love this board; but, I find it poorer for the absence of Beig, Sondra, Greg Stevens, and others who have moved to other places in the on line community.
No matter. Change is inevitable. I think cthree is entitled to use his best judgment and I'm glad I come here often.
Now I want to find God and Roadsters.
It beat the heck out of the numerous "buy now or buy later" threads, not to mention the "I killed a 996 TT in my stock S2000 with winter tires and while towing my boat" threads.
His ideas concerned the meaning and future of the S2000 and I liked it. I love this board; but, I find it poorer for the absence of Beig, Sondra, Greg Stevens, and others who have moved to other places in the on line community.
No matter. Change is inevitable. I think cthree is entitled to use his best judgment and I'm glad I come here often.
Now I want to find God and Roadsters.
It seems to me that there are three ways Honda can go in the future on the S2X00, if it keeps it alive:
1. The Thunderbird route--you make whatevere changes that will sell you more cars the following year and you eventually end up with trash.
2. The Porsche 911 route--you keep improving the car substantially and let the price rise pretty much without constraint. Here you end up with something that is heavy, goes very fast, and that ends up getting driven at 20% of its capability by 80% of its owners, since only the very wealthy can afford it.
3. The Corvette route--you keep improving the car substantially while holding the price at a reasonable level.
I vote for number 3.
1. The Thunderbird route--you make whatevere changes that will sell you more cars the following year and you eventually end up with trash.
2. The Porsche 911 route--you keep improving the car substantially and let the price rise pretty much without constraint. Here you end up with something that is heavy, goes very fast, and that ends up getting driven at 20% of its capability by 80% of its owners, since only the very wealthy can afford it.
3. The Corvette route--you keep improving the car substantially while holding the price at a reasonable level.
I vote for number 3.
[QUOTE]Originally posted by Crabby Guy
[B]It seems to me that there are three ways Honda can go in the future on the S2X00, if it keeps it alive:
1. The Thunderbird route--you make whatevere changes that will sell you more cars the following year and you eventually end up with trash.
2. The Porsche 911 route--you keep improving the car substantially and let the price rise pretty much without constraint.
[B]It seems to me that there are three ways Honda can go in the future on the S2X00, if it keeps it alive:
1. The Thunderbird route--you make whatevere changes that will sell you more cars the following year and you eventually end up with trash.
2. The Porsche 911 route--you keep improving the car substantially and let the price rise pretty much without constraint.
I agree with Crabby Guy, but I'm holding onto my '01.
There's no way a '53 or '54 Corvette could hold a canlde to an '03 Z06. I wouldn't mind owning both.
If I could "wish" only one into my garage, it would be the '53-'54.
I am growing to love my '01, defects and all, much like I do my '93 Prelude VTEC (which just had its 60,000 mile check-up this week--2000 miles early).
I love the '93 and don't find any later Prelude more appealing.
There's no way a '53 or '54 Corvette could hold a canlde to an '03 Z06. I wouldn't mind owning both.
If I could "wish" only one into my garage, it would be the '53-'54.
I am growing to love my '01, defects and all, much like I do my '93 Prelude VTEC (which just had its 60,000 mile check-up this week--2000 miles early).
I love the '93 and don't find any later Prelude more appealing.
Originally posted by rogerio1234
What if honda offers the two versions: 2.2L AND 2.0L?
It would satisfy both sides.
What if honda offers the two versions: 2.2L AND 2.0L?
It would satisfy both sides.
Crabby Guy has pretty much laid out the three possiblilities. Which choice Honda makes is my concern.
Also, I think that there is a danger in trying to please everyone. Generally, when you try to please everyone you end up pleasing no one.
The original concept was perfect IMHO:
An affordable pure sports car that was made to commemorate Honda's 50th anniversary, not to make big selling numbers.
Adding a 2.2L WILL obviously:
- reduce redline
- increase weight
- loose 50/50 weight distribution
Just to increase a bit of torque? Why ruin this concept?
An affordable pure sports car that was made to commemorate Honda's 50th anniversary, not to make big selling numbers.
Adding a 2.2L WILL obviously:
- reduce redline
- increase weight
- loose 50/50 weight distribution
Just to increase a bit of torque? Why ruin this concept?







