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Old Sep 1, 2004 | 08:48 PM
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SMG and heated seats will be offered in 2006.
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Old Sep 1, 2004 | 08:49 PM
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Blah by 06 I will have a new toy
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Old Sep 1, 2004 | 09:13 PM
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Originally Posted by allkingz,Sep 1 2004, 11:48 PM
SMG and heated seats will be offered in 2006.
heated seats.

I was just at the Honda dealership today with my roommate who purchased an 04 Civic. The salesguy said that the 05 S2000 would be essentially the same as the 04; I see he was correct.

I'm starting to think that the S2000 will become like the NSX (it will be produced for at least 10 years).
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Old Sep 1, 2004 | 09:46 PM
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Originally Posted by Hate Me,Sep 1 2004, 09:13 PM

I'm starting to think that the S2000 will become like the NSX (it will be produced for at least 10 years).
i hope your right.
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Old Sep 2, 2004 | 02:54 AM
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I guess I'm a rare commodity. I'm glad there's going to be an '05 and I'm happy Honda is staying the course on the design/feature list. It seems to me that Honda has been pretty receptive in tweaking the S2000. The '02 answered many criticisms like adding a glass window. The '04 answered criticisms of the high-revving engine by tweaking it a bit without harming the character of the car. The '05 S2000 offers buyers a level of refinement of the original S2000 vision that's hard to beat.

Honda could, I guess, add more horsepower through supercharging or turbocharging the engine -- people can never get enough horses. But that would significantly add to the price which, IMHO, departs from the original vision of offering an affordable roadster. It probably would bump it into a price point that would require Honda to add other pricey/weighty features like power seats, etc. to compete. Again, abandoning its vision of being a roadster for purists.

And while I understand why people want the S2000 to be discontinued under an assumption it'll become a rare collectors car, the real impact of discontinuation will be to prematurely age the car. Face it, cars are depreciating assets and even many exoticars like Ferarris depreciate rapidly especially following replacement by fresh designs. I'd rather see Honda sell S2000s for years to come so we can continue to infuse new blood into the S2000 community.

The S2000 is a low production, niche car Honda is thankfully producing because it has a passion for automobiles. At the volume they produce there isn't a lot of profit for anything other than minor tweaks. I would expect them to milk it like they are milking the NSX to cover the development costs over many, many years. Given the popularity of the S2000 I imagine it's a formula that will move S2000s off of dealer lots for several more years to come because the S2000 is such a wonderful execution of such a basic car enthusiast's ideal it simply has a long shelf life. It reminds me of the classic English roadsters of the past but without any of the hassles (poor quality, poor performance, overly cramped interior, poor safety, etc.)

Keep up the good work Honda!
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Old Sep 2, 2004 | 03:54 AM
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How can the accord hybrid have more hp than the non hybrid one? weird..
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Old Sep 2, 2004 | 04:01 AM
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Originally Posted by forsaken,Sep 2 2004, 07:54 AM
How can the accord hybrid have more hp than the non hybrid one? weird..
Thats easy. The car has 2 motors, so it can push out more horsepower... You take the same gasoline motor producing 240 horsepower, and add an IMA motor to drive the rear wheels or assist in driving the front wheels, and you've got extra horsepower. I'm not 100% sure this is how they divided it ... more likely the 3.0 v6 is putting out 200 or 225 hp and the IMA motor is putting out 30-55 horsepower which equals higher fuel economy through the use of IMA and through tweaking the 3.0 v6 to produce less hp.

Haven't you seen anything about the Honda DN-X concept? Its a hybrid all wheel drive vehicle that has the front wheels driven by a gasoline motor and the rear wheels driven by an IMA motor. It produces 400hp from a 3.5L v6 i-VTEC motor combined with an IMA motor. If it uses a similar motor to the new RL, it would mean the 3.5L is pushing 300hp, while the IMA is pushing 100hp.

Just like any other design, Honda can tweak hybrids for performance or for fuel economy.
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Old Sep 2, 2004 | 04:41 AM
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Can you guys learn how to spell insistent?. Thanks,
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Old Sep 2, 2004 | 05:54 AM
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Originally Posted by 2kturkey,Sep 2 2004, 07:41 AM
Can you guys learn how to spell insistent?. Thanks,
Sure, but can you check your punctuation?
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Old Sep 2, 2004 | 10:32 AM
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Originally Posted by cbanks,Sep 2 2004, 02:54 AM
I guess I'm a rare commodity. I'm glad there's going to be an '05 and I'm happy Honda is staying the course on the design/feature list. It seems to me that Honda has been pretty receptive in tweaking the S2000. The '02 answered many criticisms like adding a glass window. The '04 answered criticisms of the high-revving engine by tweaking it a bit without harming the character of the car. The '05 S2000 offers buyers a level of refinement of the original S2000 vision that's hard to beat.

Honda could, I guess, add more horsepower through supercharging or turbocharging the engine -- people can never get enough horses. But that would significantly add to the price which, IMHO, departs from the original vision of offering an affordable roadster. It probably would bump it into a price point that would require Honda to add other pricey/weighty features like power seats, etc. to compete. Again, abandoning its vision of being a roadster for purists.

And while I understand why people want the S2000 to be discontinued under an assumption it'll become a rare collectors car, the real impact of discontinuation will be to prematurely age the car. Face it, cars are depreciating assets and even many exoticars like Ferarris depreciate rapidly especially following replacement by fresh designs. I'd rather see Honda sell S2000s for years to come so we can continue to infuse new blood into the S2000 community.

The S2000 is a low production, niche car Honda is thankfully producing because it has a passion for automobiles. At the volume they produce there isn't a lot of profit for anything other than minor tweaks. I would expect them to milk it like they are milking the NSX to cover the development costs over many, many years. Given the popularity of the S2000 I imagine it's a formula that will move S2000s off of dealer lots for several more years to come because the S2000 is such a wonderful execution of such a basic car enthusiast's ideal it simply has a long shelf life. It reminds me of the classic English roadsters of the past but without any of the hassles (poor quality, poor performance, overly cramped interior, poor safety, etc.)

Keep up the good work Honda!


I'm also glad the S2000 is being continued on '05.

With the uncertainty of the NSX's future, I don't like the prospects of the S2000 being discontinued too.

Without the NSX and S2000, the RSX would have to fill the role as Honda's "sports car."
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