Not true, look at f1 cars. However look at how much R&D they have to make them handle the way they do with the power they have.

With enough money I'm sure it could handle great, but I don't think you (nor most people) have nearly as much money as the F1 teams do.

As I said, don't lie to yourself, its not going to handle well with that kind of power on a s2k chasis with the stock s2k suspension...

 

i agree it wont handle as well with stock suspension, thats obvious. if you spent $17k on an engine swap, i doubt your suspension would be stock.
-Chris

 

So for $16K, how used will be the engine? That's pricey for an old engine.

 

too much time + too much money

awesome! good work!

 

but I don't think I'd like shifting where my cup holder was...seems like it would be a little awkward.

 

very cool. didn't realize the vid was a commercial though

 

all he's doing is marketing his product - whats the problem with that?

also, they sell brand new shortblocks from toyota, i wonder if he has a connection for more new parts.
-Chris

 

AlexF20c where are you?!?!?

 

Anyone find the pic of the Ls1 in the miata? Saw that a little while back, maybe a year ago....

 

I just read the entire thread. While there is a lot of supposition from many posts about the ill effects on handling, weight distribution, power delivery, shifting, cost, etc., there are precious few FACTS.

After watching the video and going to the wwwstwok dot com website, I gave Bryan at 50-50 Racing a call this morning to get the scoop. He spent nearly 15 minutes on the phone with me, answering all my questions.

I admit that I don't know the guy, and can't verify any of the "facts" he gave me, here's what I learned from him (he's willing to let anyone drive his test mule that's in the video to get an idea of what a car with the swap is like):

* Bryan says he can detect no difference in the handling characteristics between a stock S and the test mule (aside from the est. 750 h.p., I assume)
* Weight gained was ~177 lbs. on the front tires
* Steering assembly is moved ~6 in. forward in the chassis
* Engine is a rebuilt by a company in Japan (can't recall the name...Aseri maybe), and is warranty'd for 30K miles
* 50-50 Racing goes through the engines, testing compression, looking at various internal components, to assure quality is met
* Turbo system is a new, 1 step upgraded version (sorry, can't recall the turbo manufacturer or model)
* Test mule is putting down nearly 750 h.p. @ 25 psi boost
* Bryan says the car's power scares the g--d--m livin' sh-t outta him, and he's been building modified Supras for years
* Shift lever on the Getrag is positioned exactly 8 inches forward of the front edge of the arm pad on the console, or ~2 inches rearward of the stock location
* Parts costs are around $9K, configured like the test mule (i.e., rebuilt engine, new turbo system, Getrag 6-speed tranny, assorted other goodies like the ECU, etc.)
* Labor for the above install runs ~$5K
* Bryan said that he has received over 4,500 emails (that's the correct number of zeroes...I asked twice) asking about the swap in the last two days
* Only top quality parts are used all around ("no ebay rip offs")

Now, all I have to do is convince my wife to use the $8K I have in the bank to put down on the swap, instead of putting it toward my car loan! Yes, I want this bad!

MAS

P.S. Bryan: If you read this any I've messed up anything in the translation, please forgive and correct me.