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Old Sep 22, 2005 | 02:12 PM
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I think you are missing the point of a "good driver" in the other cars.
The M3 is faster period. It may not be driven properly, but it is faster.

Case in point. Find an M3 owner and swap cars for a race. You will beat your S2K.
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Old Sep 22, 2005 | 02:55 PM
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Originally Posted by BS2000,Sep 22 2005, 03:34 PM
Get u but u still wrong. U just talking while ive gone to a track HAve raced M3's and know for Sure 3 cars is around .5 .6. M3 does not run 13flat. And if u think my bros car is slow and cant drive i welcome anyone who thinks different to come and try. The owner himself said 3 cars. The owners brother himself from watching outside said around 3-4 cars. The difference From his time slip was .6 better then my time and dont bring up reaction cuz his was .1 better then mine. So u are just saying while i proved it. Other way i can prove it is, my friends srt-4 modded had a m3 first, second, and a bit of third, and he was spinning tires 1-2. If u really have a s2000, go out right now find a m3 stick hard top and run him from 0-100. If u have honestly say u lost by 8-9 cars then fine but id still think its your driving then, but if u can honestly say u lost by 8-9 cars then ill believe u. Im talking about things that ive done, not off the top of my head. There are people in the forums that back me up. So u go run a m3 and come back and tell me im right and that u were wrong.

Dont think im trying to start a fight, i like it when people talk about this things. I do it all day long. So i respect u in your comments and also no hard feelings. But i still think u wayyyy wrong.

And about the Evo it was off a roll. Off launch its a joke and by 1/4 its more like 10 cars. It is a low 12 second car And thats At palmdale sea level 2700Ft. U do the math people
He's making a really good point, everyone must remember that all drivers that participated in these races were professionals with years of experience. I can already tell you that BS2000 is an amazing driver, that can make a 13.8 second car (tested numerous times) run within a few car lengths of a 13.3 second car. He also is an outstanding engineer that knows 4.57's will take over .5 seconds off his time.

Come on man, grow up and stop street racing an S2000. You obviously wanted a Mustang anyways

BS2000 = BullShit2000
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Old Sep 22, 2005 | 03:11 PM
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Get u but u still wrong. U just talking while ive gone to a track HAve raced M3's and know for Sure 3 cars is around .5 .6.
I'm just talking? you're talking to probably one of the biggest 1/4 mile S2000 race whores there is. If I run a 13.8 and another car runs a 13.3, the difference is WAY more than "3 cars". it's about 5-6. Not to mention I already explained the logic and why. Do you understand that at 100mph a car is moving about 146 feet per second? So how on earth do you think two cars at those speeds are .6 seconds apart, but only 3 car lengths apart?

This is also why the general rule of thumb for 100mph traps is for every tenth of a second it's 1 car length difference.

M3 does not run 13flat.
properly driven, yes, the E46 runs 13 flat. If you think otherwise then you really need to meet someone who can actually drive their M3.

And if u think my bros car is slow and cant drive i welcome anyone who thinks different to come and try.
I didn't say your brothers car is slow. You basically said it's slow. First, if your brother runs low 12's, yet he can only put 5 cars on you from 45-100, then either his car does NOT run 12's, or he can't drive his way out of a paper bag when he races you.

The owners brother himself from watching outside said around 3-4 cars.
i hate to break it to you, but no one "spectating" can even come remotely close to telling how far apart two cars finished at the finish line.

So u are just saying while i proved it.
no, you didn't prove anything. and i'm not just saying. i'm speaking from experience. between my two S2000's i've run probably more than 300 times at the track. and that's just my S2000's. nevermind cars I had before the S2000.

If u really have a s2000
are you kidding me? lol.

go out right now find a m3 stick hard top and run him from 0-100. If u have honestly say u lost by 8-9 cars then fine but id still think its your driving then, but if u can honestly say u lost by 8-9 cars then ill believe u.
already done it. and no it's not my driving. i ran high 13's stock, with best times in the 13.7's.

here, have a video. both cars stock.
http://www.we-todd-did-racing.com/wetoddim...DEzZGZkMzF5NTQx
this is reality. what's sad is the M3 let off at about 65-70mph, when it already had a good 4-5 cars on the S2000. AND the M3 even let the S2000 get on it before the M3 hit it.

Im talking about things that ive done, not off the top of my head. There are people in the forums that back me up. So u go run a m3 and come back and tell me im right and that u were wrong.
as stated ive already done it several times

Dont think im trying to start a fight, i like it when people talk about this things.
no hard feelings.
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Old Sep 22, 2005 | 03:13 PM
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Originally Posted by coachray,Sep 22 2005, 04:12 PM
I think you are missing the point of a "good driver" in the other cars.
exactly my point. if you run a 13.8 in an S2000, and you stay within 3 cars of an M3 in the 1/4 mile, then the M3 was a poor driver and probably only ran a 13.5.
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Old Sep 22, 2005 | 04:37 PM
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Back to the original statement...

an E46 M3 will STILL spank you!!!
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Old Sep 22, 2005 | 04:48 PM
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So how about this to prove it, u find a friend that lives around the La Area Glendale, and u tell him to run me at the tracks. When your own friend proves u wrong i dono what else to say. Do u know what 8-9cars is. Thats like 3 bus lengths. Still if u guys want to be proven wrong u just bring an M3 and ill prove u wrong. Best way to find out dont u think? So just leme know. And about that an evo on the freeway isnt fast Awd remember. My bro handed a Turbo S2000 with stand alone, I, H, E. By 3 cars from a 45-110 roll and the video u showed me i laugh again cuz i saw that around 4 years ago. Notice how the s2k launched. If u think that is a launch i laugh. I also hit 13.9 with my stock s2k. I dono its your word vs. mine. ima beleive mine, and u going to believe yours. SO lets just leave it to that. IVe raced my races, and uve raced yours. I still think and will say....when i get my final drive and ecu tuned with intake and headers and exhaust ill race any stock M3 for money. that is a promise that i wont go back on.
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Old Sep 22, 2005 | 05:02 PM
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we don't need to find a friend and have them race you. bottom line is, you're not running any faster than 13.7 at best with your S2000. no matter how good a driver you claim to be.

and a properly driven BMW will put 7 cars on you in the 1/4 mile.

there is nothing to prove. this SHOULD be common knowledge. if you're so testy about it, go ahead and post on http://forums.bimmerforums.com/forum/ and tell them an E46 M3 can only put 3 cars on your stock S2000. you'll get laughed off the forum.

then, go over to http://forums.evolutionm.net/ and tell them your brother's low 12 second EVO can only put 5 cars on your stock S2000 from a 45mph roll.

and no, that wasn't a launch in the video. the point was, the launch lasts the first 2 seconds. the BMW let the S2000 start first, and it still got walked.

it's not your word vs mine. it's your word vs every other knowledgeable forum user.
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Old Sep 22, 2005 | 05:03 PM
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Originally Posted by BS2000,Sep 22 2005, 04:48 PM
So how about this to prove it, u find a friend that lives around the La Area Glendale, and u tell him to run me at the tracks. When your own friend proves u wrong i dono what else to say. Do u know what 8-9cars is. Thats like 3 bus lengths. Still if u guys want to be proven wrong u just bring an M3 and ill prove u wrong. Best way to find out dont u think? So just leme know. And about that an evo on the freeway isnt fast Awd remember. My bro handed a Turbo S2000 with stand alone, I, H, E. By 3 cars from a 45-110 roll and the video u showed me i laugh again cuz i saw that around 4 years ago. Notice how the s2k launched. If u think that is a launch i laugh. I also hit 13.9 with my stock s2k. I dono its your word vs. mine. ima beleive mine, and u going to believe yours. SO lets just leave it to that. IVe raced my races, and uve raced yours. I still think and will say....when i get my final drive and ecu tuned with intake and headers and exhaust ill race any stock M3 for money. that is a promise that i wont go back on.
I bet ya $10k Matt will beat you with a stock s2000 vs. your stock s2000 so might as well believe his words and not yours. Stock m3 vs. stock s2000=m3 spanks s2000. m3 vs geared s2000 should be a pretty good race. When I said... 5 car lenghts, I said that that was the difference between a stock s2k vs a 4.57 geared s2k.
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Old Sep 22, 2005 | 05:04 PM
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Originally Posted by BS2000,Sep 22 2005, 06:48 PM
My bro handed a Turbo S2000 with stand alone, I, H, E. By 3 cars from a 45-110 roll
wait. so your bro's car can put 3 cars on a turbo i/h/e standalone S2000, but he can only put 5 cars on your stock S2000?



and yellowS2kpwr's point. if i can't even stay within 3-4 cars of a stock M3 in the 1/4 mile with my 4.57 geared S2000 while running a 13.6@102.4, a stock S2000 sure as hell ain't gonna do it either. unless the M3 can't drive.
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Old Sep 22, 2005 | 05:07 PM
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Originally Posted by Wisconsin S2k,Sep 22 2005, 05:04 PM
wait. so your bro's car can put 3 cars on a turbo i/h/e standalone S2000, but he can only put 5 cars on your stock S2000?



and yellowS2kpwr's point. if i can't even stay within 3-4 cars of a stock M3 in the 1/4 mile with my 4.57 geared S2000 while running a 13.6@102.4, a stock S2000 sure as hell ain't gonna do it either. unless the M3 can't drive.
I think it's time to close yet another thread.
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