Am I causing clutch / synchro probs
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Originally Posted by Not Sure,Mar 29 2010, 01:52 PM
- it's so smooth it feels like an automatic transmission.
Its hard to explain the shift, but he got it good^^ Almost feels like an automatic. My car is all stock and I just love the sound of it when running it and quick shifting....lol it sounds kinda like the guy on the crotch rocket that jets from the red light...really no pause in sound during shifts.
On the way home today on open road I nailed it ...1st gear 20 mph start and kept an eye on tac and speedometer. 8500 to 8900 is where I shifted. Speedo never dropped not 1 mph actually kept climbing 1st to 2nd and 2nd to 3rd during shift....3rd to 4th and 4th to 5th maintained speed where clutching started.
And just for the record I've been driving a standard this way for a long time, and if you dont know what your doing and miss the sweet spot......you will grind the piss outta it....please dont message me pissed cause you ruined your tranny. I would suggest if you want to learn it .....hee hee...Get a rental lol and dont forget to get the insurance.....lol
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Originally Posted by rob-2,Mar 29 2010, 12:50 AM
A lot of bad info in your post - read this - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Manual_transmission
The jerk or buck is the engine speed differing from the tranny speed. Thus putting more stress on the clutch/tranny.
Syncro's are ONLY used while changing gears. Ensuring gear speeds are match between shifts - nothing to do with the clutch. You can shift gears without using the clutch - if you're good enough and if you rev match it'll just slid in without grinding.
The jerk or buck is the engine speed differing from the tranny speed. Thus putting more stress on the clutch/tranny.
Syncro's are ONLY used while changing gears. Ensuring gear speeds are match between shifts - nothing to do with the clutch. You can shift gears without using the clutch - if you're good enough and if you rev match it'll just slid in without grinding.
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Can someone with real technical experience confirm or deny this: as I understand, when you shift gears, the synchros match the transmission input shaft speed to the gear that is being engaged. It seems to me that by shifting with the clutch only partially disengaged, the synchros would have to slow the input shaft as well as dealing with the torque created by the clutch still being partially engaged and trying to maitain the engine speed. I'm not trying to discredit anyone, that's just my thought process.
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If you rev match perfectly you barely need to clutch. Unfortunately since no one is this precise you will be damaging your syncros if you don't fully disengage the clutch on each shift, especially the downshift. Most S2000's clutches are set to start disengaging after only 1" of freeplay so pushing the clutch in 3" should be enough to fully disengage and release. Shifting when accelerating hard should not take 1-1.5 seconds when done correctly. more like 0.5 - 0.7 seconds.
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So..............
"Do I need to push the clutch pedal all the way in when I shift?"
"Yes"
If you get the engine speed correct, you don't need the clutch at all - you will be able to just slide the car into gear. Rather than worry about making that match up, just use the clutch and synchros, and enjoy the car.
"Do I need to push the clutch pedal all the way in when I shift?"
"Yes"
If you get the engine speed correct, you don't need the clutch at all - you will be able to just slide the car into gear. Rather than worry about making that match up, just use the clutch and synchros, and enjoy the car.
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Originally Posted by Saki GT,Mar 29 2010, 05:06 PM
So..............
"Do I need to push the clutch pedal all the way in when I shift?"
"Yes"
If you get the engine speed correct, you don't need the clutch at all - you will be able to just slide the car into gear. Rather than worry about making that match up, just use the clutch and synchros, and enjoy the car.
"Do I need to push the clutch pedal all the way in when I shift?"
"Yes"
If you get the engine speed correct, you don't need the clutch at all - you will be able to just slide the car into gear. Rather than worry about making that match up, just use the clutch and synchros, and enjoy the car.
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Originally Posted by JLUDE,Mar 29 2010, 04:06 PM
If you rev match perfectly you barely need to clutch. Unfortunately since no one is this precise you will be damaging your syncros if you don't fully disengage the clutch on each shift, especially the downshift. Most S2000's clutches are set to start disengaging after only 1" of freeplay so pushing the clutch in 3" should be enough to fully disengage and release. Shifting when accelerating hard should not take 1-1.5 seconds when done correctly. more like 0.5 - 0.7 seconds.
Imma drive it like I stole it...lol naa but really ...now I dont think i'm doing anything wrong. If it bites me in the ass well then I'll post the pics...lol
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To the OP, this is a little off topic, but one more word of advice....don't skip shift this car, the sychro's can't take it.
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