Best BBK for S2k.
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From: New Jersey
Originally Posted by M-Type,Oct 10 2007, 11:05 PM
so what are some recommendations for "better" pads on stocks?
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From: Holland
Originally Posted by M-Type,Oct 11 2007, 05:05 AM
so what are some recommendations for "better" pads on stocks?
race pads: Ferrodo ds3000
My stock pads failed within the second lap on the Nurburgring in Germany. Mind you that track is 20km long
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From: Ohio
Originally Posted by Spec_Ops2087,Oct 8 2007, 08:51 PM
If you were to upgrade, you would upgrade the front brakes. However as I stated, there is no real reason to upgrade to a BBK. If you can lock your wheels with the stock brakes (which EVERYONE can unless your running R-compounds maybe) BBKs will NOT improve your stoping distance. For track use, just upgrading our stock pads to race pads will next to completly eliminate brake fade. Only in extreme circumstances (aka endurance events) will a BBK be actually necessary which I say 99% of owners do not do.
Well said
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From: Rockville
Originally Posted by racingminds,Oct 11 2007, 03:51 AM
Cool information, yeah it's true that cross-drilled and slotted rotors crack easier, but they help to dissipate heat. I personally think slotted is ok fer circuit but don't recommend the crossdrilled. Will rotor heat be an issue for the OEM rotors on the track, let's say i do about 10-15 laps each time on a circuit which runs 5.5km long and has a good mix of turns and long straight needing lotsa braking at the end, will the OEM rotors stay cool enough to prevent brake fade? Besides brake ducts, any other ways to cool an OEM rotor then?
The primary factors that are going to contribute to the heat of your rotor are the vanes inside the rotor (look at it from the side and see the channels leading into the rotor hat) and the amount of air you're getting to the area behind the hat. Then the rotor is spinning, those vanes help draw air between the two sides of the rotor to cool it down.
The OEM vane design is fine, and if you want to get more air to them, simply build brake ducts (do a search in R&C and you'll find a number of options for DIYers).
Other than looks, there simply is no reason to go with cross drilled or slotted rotors. That's not to say that looks aren't a valid reason, just that its not quantifiable and is totally subjective
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to add to this, it is very important that you have race fluids, like motul 600 or ATE Blue/gold stuff (same, different color for flushing).
you could have the best brake pads and the best bbk, but without the brake fluids, it will not perform their best.
you could have the best brake pads and the best bbk, but without the brake fluids, it will not perform their best.
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Originally Posted by WindchaserS2K,Oct 8 2007, 08:25 AM
On the Stoptech you have to put a a 20mm+ spacer and pull your stock fender I belive
17mm spacers would work. and no need to pull fenders...
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So in short, there is no way we can improve the feel/stopping distance of our stock brakes?
By "feel", I mean more initial bite.
I've driven other cars and thought that the brakes on the S was weak.
I like that initial bite of BMWs, my old R32(great brakes!), 350z(even the non Brembo).
No way to achieve that?
Any advice would be appreciated.
Thanks
Dan
By "feel", I mean more initial bite.
I've driven other cars and thought that the brakes on the S was weak.
I like that initial bite of BMWs, my old R32(great brakes!), 350z(even the non Brembo).
No way to achieve that?
Any advice would be appreciated.
Thanks
Dan
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From: Corona
I've asked this question in the racing forum and most agreed that an upgrade isn't necessary. Unless you're making huge HP that the stock brakes can't handle, you won't notice a difference with a BBK. Using racing pads will suit you fine on the track.
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i dunno about you but i notice a difference with the bbk. now i driving both a s with stock calipers and ss lines and my car.... the brake has a firmer feel and shorter pedal travel.
when i installed willwoods on my corolla... there was a night and day difference....
*shrugs*
when i installed willwoods on my corolla... there was a night and day difference....
*shrugs*