Oh I'm aware that the F20C won't "overrev" at 9K. I thought his motor was an F22 and overreved at "only" 9300. I meant that I didn't think even the F22 would get rod failure at "only" 9300.

 

What is the 2.2 designed to max rev at? I believe I read somewhere that the 2.0 with the 9K limiter was "designed" to tolerate a blip to 10.5K

Can anyone add to this or am I nuts?

 

i agree

 

i doubt any honest person would want to help you out, it's like telling other people over the net how to slim jim a car, override immoblizer and roll back odo.

sounds like i am the arse hole but i think they are there for a good purpose, if it's overrev'ed once you open up the crank, you cannot mask it with something else. well, at least to a decent tech.

to the OP: file a complaint to the regional honda service, most of the time dealership loves to deny first claim to "filter" out insurance scam artist.

 

Whaaaat?

As far as I know, only America and Japan has F22C the rest of the civilized world is still able to get the right one...

And back to the subject.. thats not overrev.. tell that Honda dealer that they should learn a bit about their own cars before speaking BS.

 

[QUOTE=jesse.mesa,Jan 14 2008, 09:25 PM] Can the ECU be cleared before going to the dealer?

 

You make the huge assumption that the dealer is 100% honest. Take the OP for example. The dealer is claiming that revving a F20C to 9300 rpms is an over-rev that will cause bottom end damage.

They are using this as an excuse to deny a warrenty claim. This is fairly shady. If the OP pulled the battery cable before towing in, he might have a new motor right now.

Overreving either the F20 or the F22 will cause top end damage well before it causes a rod to be thrown. And this certainly doesn't happen 300rpm from the redline, on a fairly new motor.

You Arse

 

Sure, knowing how to clear the ECU could be used negatively but then again Honda dealers use it against owners negatively themselves. I see nothing morally wrong with clearing the ECU if at all possible. If they do want to use the ECU as a "black box" that is fine but they must play fair. If they can use data in it against us then we should be able to use the data against them. If they are the only ones who can access or clear the data then who's to say who's being honest or dishonest. If they made it easier for us to view but not clear the data that might be fair. That way when we buy an S2000, used or new we can tell it was abused (either by the previous owner or a test driver). Otherwise you could explode your engine at no fault of your own and have all sorts of warranty issues.

I bought my Honda slightly used and with a warranty. I did so for a reason, I wanted a factory warranty. When I called Honda for service records before I decided to buy it they were very reluctant to provide me any service records, they didn't even want to provide me my warranty start\end date. I had to call 3 different dealers before one was willing to provide the service information (4 including Honda North America). None of the dealers were willing to check the ECU without a reported issue and if I did have an issue they would only be willing to provide data related to the specified issue (if found).

My point is this, Honda is quick to use the service records and information in the ECU as a tool against Honda owners but when an owner needs help or information they are reluctant to provide it. And I'm suppose to feel bad about clearing my ECU in an attempt to protect my warranty from what I don't know and Honda is unwilling to provide me??? I don't think so.

 

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