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View Poll Results: How intrusive is the VSA system?
Very, cuts throttle often, with even slight wheelspin.
10.14%
Not very, some throttle cut, but not bad.
13.04%
Not at all, seldom know it's engaged unless I am driving aggressively.
76.81%
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Old Apr 6, 2011 | 05:22 PM
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Originally Posted by psychoazn
Anytime it kicks in, it is saving me. I leave it off for track driving, but it will allow for some slip angle. It wont kick in unless you're going to lose the rear. It'll kick in faster than I can correct, if it is on.
A wonderful addition to these cars, with quality rubber you can push the car pretty close too its limits without interference, and still have the piece of mind that it'll keep the back end in check. Saved my ass several times.
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Old Apr 6, 2011 | 05:32 PM
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One last thing I'd like to point out; is if used educationally, how beneficial VSA can be if used as such.

If you enter/exit too fast VSA will bark at you. If you put in too much steering angle, VSA will bark at you. It's very easy to feel like you're driving 'fast' and at the limit, when you're self inducing slip... but there's a huge difference between feeling fast, and going fast. VSA is a great tool to learn how to understand 'the line' and how to get very very close to the PROPER limit, without any of the uneccesary fear. Get on a track and you can learn how to crank out that extra 5% that physics lets you, and you're at 100%. There's a lot of people out there who seem to think because their rear is coming out, that they're actually going fast. A majority of the time, this is not the case.
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Old Apr 6, 2011 | 05:45 PM
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^^ Totally agree. I still do laps with it on, to gauge where it comes on, and where it doesn't. It's shocking how hard you can turn in, without setting it off, but how easily it'll come on when powering out of a turn. It'll even let you trail brake in.
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Old Apr 6, 2011 | 06:15 PM
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The couple of times I've forgot to turn it off on track or autox, it's been horribly intrusive. Steering with the rear is essential to drive an S2000 quickly IME, and VSA just won't let you do that. I can't imagine trail braking with it. I fully understand feeling fast and going fast are 2 different things, but I'm no slouch.

If we're talking about street driving, if it turns on, you are either driving too agressively or there are adverse conditions.
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Old Apr 6, 2011 | 07:26 PM
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If you really don't want the VSA, get yourself a flashpro and disable it.
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Old Apr 6, 2011 | 08:07 PM
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Originally Posted by jgermany
If you really don't want the VSA, get yourself a flashpro and disable it.
Or hold the button next to the steering wheel for 3 seconds
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Old Apr 7, 2011 | 12:28 AM
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Great feedback, all, I appreciate it. A follow up question. Is the throttle cut in response to a more extreme skid/wheel spin? Or even on nominal interventions, is the throttle cut happening along with wheel braking?
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Old Apr 7, 2011 | 05:38 AM
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mine is not very intrusive.
it allows some sliding before it engages.

at auto xross or track i always disable it.
if i forget it gets disturbing.

but on public roads i don't feel i need it OFF.
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Old Apr 7, 2011 | 09:58 AM
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Originally Posted by newsguy
Great feedback, all, I appreciate it. A follow up question. Is the throttle cut in response to a more extreme skid/wheel spin? Or even on nominal interventions, is the throttle cut happening along with wheel braking?
It's more of a "gas pedal does nothing" rather than cutting power. If it abruptly cuts power, you did something REALLY wrong.
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Old Apr 7, 2011 | 10:33 AM
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Use search: https://www.s2ki.com/s2000/topic/845...ow-i-love-vsa/
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