Perhaps it is uncool, but is not outrageous or without precedent.

Look at the Porsche GT3RS: you'd have to pay an extra $17,400 (!) for a gutted GT3.

Or how about the Gallardo Superleggera? Gutting the standard Gallardo costs you $38,140. How much are new S2000's going for these days?

 

No, the CR has the exact same gearing.

 

What I can't believe is that you guys actually pay attention to Car & Driver. They are nothing more than paid advertisement for car companies. There tests and comparo's are always biased. I have seen One sports car loose to a lesser car in a comparo because the liked the lesser's seats better!

Another point.... 2000-2003 They named the Ford Focus Best car of the year, and best in its class as well as a few other awards! But a little research would show that the very same car has the second highest amount of recalls in history. Only to be beaten out (and not by much) by the Ford Pinto

And no body ever thinks that is fishy?

 

Even so, what commercial/revenue motivation would the magazine have to rate one Honda trim better than another Honda trim for the same model car?

I could see the possibility of being biased towards a particular manufacturer vs. another due to ad revenue or something...but this is the same manufacturer, same model, different trim.

In fact, one could argue in this case that the findings are less prone to 'market stimulation' than others simply because the car's upstream paths are identical.

 

Bottom line is that the CR should be lots faster and better all the way around vs. the AP2. that is why you are spending the extra cash right?

 

I get so tired of defending my CR and the reasons for purchasing it. I love the car and that's all that counts. I don't remember asking any of you to lend me money to buy it as I paid cash for it. So why all the belly aching? Don't you have anything better to do than beat up a perfectly good car?? It really gets old and I really appreciate the laughing kids pointing at the CR. A lot of cammaraderie on this board . . . . . . NOT!!!!

A)It was never intended to be a drag racer. If I had wanted a drag racer, I would have built one or bought one.

B)For the fourth time, I have quoted the October 07 issue of Sports Car Magazine (SCCA) when they had a professional driver drive a new 08 S2000 and a new 08 S2000 CR around the Mid Ohio Sports Racing track. As I recall, the article stated that all things being equal, the CR was over two(2) seconds faster per lap with everything being objective and conditions being equal. How much more proof do you need?? For crying out loud!!! The car does everything Honda designed it to do and does it very well for a very reasonable price. Give it rest.

Ruprect,

Have you driven a CR yet?? I think not. Until you do, I wish you would keep your comments to yourself. I have offered to let you drive mine at your convenience to alay any reservations you might have. I don't know how much better it can get than to offer a nay sayer an opportunity to drive my new $ 40K car and still he runs down my choices with his juvenile comments. Personally, I am just sick to death of this kind of crap.

Moderator,

Maybe you should refund my money that I paid to join this forum and ban me. It seems like "Guests" have the right to abuse paying members and cause problems. What kind of environment does that create?? I apologize for the rant, but this wasn't what I signed up for. I thought this was about building up other "members", sharing ideas/ information and promoting our cars.

Thanks, Mike

 

Hey Old_Guy, no personal offense is intended from my perspective.

I don't think you need to defend your purchase at all. We all have likes, preferences, and peeves from our own perspectives. To each his own

At the same time, comments and opinions shared about the CR or AP2 or AP1 or a mod or a sales price or a paint job or whatever the topic may be is not a bad thing.

Not all conversations or opinions will please all folks, but some folks enjoy open discussion and sharing good points, bad points, perhaps learning some new things or seeing things from differing perspectives.

Some folks might discuss the greatness of the CR and some other folks might discuss the shortcomings. All good as long as it's not a personal attack.

Forums are a place to share opinions and certainly not all opinions will be the same. That's what makes a forum. If we all agreed and thought the same way, what info would ever be shared?

I have not driven the CR, you are correct. My comments don't offer opinion on how it rides, or corners, but deal with appearance and other features removed (things I can see and form opinion on without a drive).

Sorry to offend...truly that was not my intent. I am glad you love the CR and hope that you don't feel personally fronted that I don't share the same opinion...but I just have an opinion on it. My opinion and a quarter still won't buy a cup of coffee.

 

Give em hell Mike

 

 

I think it has been proven that the aero isn't exactly effective until it is fully utilized, i.e. it will slow the car down in low speeds like AutoX and shorter drag races...