The pictures show BF Goodrich's with what looks like decent amount of tread on your AP1...

 

No this is a driver error. I owned a Civic that was mildly built (200hp) or so for 10 years and went straight to my S2k without any problems. I was aware of the twichiness that the car has and the fact that the rear ends are quirky and light but many people just don't do extensive research before buying a particular car.

I also had time to drive my wifes G35 which pampered the shit out of me with close to 170lbs of torque but had a TCS system. The S obviously doesn't have this. I even got mine with crappy all season economy tires lol. Point blank I knew what I was getting into, I knew what the car lacked and I needed to learn to drive it as opposed to me teaching the car what I want IT to do. I intentionally pushed it on the cambered onramp EVERYDAY more and more as I have an assload of room for error until I felt like I had reached the point where I knew the cars slipping points. From there I went with better tires, now I'm working with the suspension and so forth.

Cars of all kinds can teach us plenty. FWD, AWD and even RWD. It's knowing understeer/oversteer and being able to absorb what you learn and apply it on the road that helps keep you from wrecking. I feel like because of the car I did drive and the ones I have driven over the years its made me an EVEN BETTER driver than I could have been by say.......Going out and buying an S2k for my first car for example? lol... That would be a setup for disaster.

 

I agree! I think it was driver error on this one. You make great points!

Just trying to make the point that if you have no experience in how the dynamics of rear wheel drive work when you lift the throttle at high revs in a tight turn, an S2K is not the best car be learning on!

You obviously did the right thing as you transitioned to an s2k---sounds like you did what I did-- explore its limits carefully at first to avoid having a tree as a hood ornament !

 

Yeah pretty much. I learned my lessons early on with understeer when I had a CRX and thought I was big shit until I lost the rear and clipped a median doing 65, There wasn't much damage as I corrected it just ever so carefully but I still learned my lesson.

Even the earlier model Mustangs will handle similar to an S which makes them not so user friendly, It doesn't make these cars undrivable but it does make them more dangerous. This is why Honda continously tried to tame the rear end of the car througout the years by changing the dynamics of the sway bars and suspension.

 

I feel the problem most people have is that they dont get to experience that "oh shit" moment until its too late.

I intentionally lost the rear end a few times late at night in deserted parking lots just to get the feel.

Part of the reason I would like to get into auto cross is for this reason, and just to be a better all around driver.

 

Yea I did that in a parking lot too... and then 8 cops showed up lol. Not kidding they called in like every cop within 10 miles or something. Thats also one of the reasons I started autoxing, so I know what to do when something does happen.

 

This is why my insurance keeps going up only for my s2000...

 

BFGoodrich

 

Good for you..

 

I was able to break the back end of my S2000 loose once making a right turn from a stop....

I was in a parking lot on 5 year old S-02 bald rear tires...

The Ap1 is a bit twitchy but it's perfectly controllable of you have any experience at all with RWD.

I'm glad I learned from the driving mistakes I made in open parking lots and on the Auto-X course...NOT on public roads.

OP: I hope you get a fair settlement and learn from this incident. Best of luck!