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Old Apr 27, 2012 | 03:18 PM
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Originally Posted by 305AP1
Originally Posted by speedjunky01' timestamp='1335546479' post='21648945
AZ-S2000 is on the right track, DONT GO BY NADA!!! thats what banks and dealers use for prices when they are buying a car KBB is what you would be paying.

Like I said DON'T cash or accept a check, tell them ok to 13 with keeping the car and even that is a little low.
Umm banks and dealers use what's called black book. Idk where you guys pull this information from. The majority of people don't have access to the black book though .

The 52-year-old, widely-used Black Book guide is circulation controlled, restricted to dealers and financing sources. Unlike kbb.com and NADA.com, the Black Book Web site does not provide data, only links you to dealers. The Black Book is the only value guide issued weekly instead of monthly, reflecting the latest prices direct from actual or online automobile dealers.

Whereas other value books or value Web sites may break down value into WHOLESALE and RETAIL numbers or TRADE-IN, PRIVATE PARTY and RETAIL, Black Book truly specializes in WHOLESALE VALUE, determining the value of used cars within categories of EXTRA CLEAN, CLEAN, AVERAGE or ROUGH. Although the others also issue editions for special interest/classic/rare cars, the Black Book's Cars of Particular Interest (CPI) value guide contains over 14,000 vehicles, dating from 1946 to 2007.
NADA has a business section which is restricted to dealers and such. Its expensive, and a few insurance use it as well as dealers
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Old Apr 27, 2012 | 04:26 PM
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Originally Posted by 305AP1
Originally Posted by speedjunky01' timestamp='1335546479' post='21648945
AZ-S2000 is on the right track, DONT GO BY NADA!!! thats what banks and dealers use for prices when they are buying a car KBB is what you would be paying.

Like I said DON'T cash or accept a check, tell them ok to 13 with keeping the car and even that is a little low.
Umm banks and dealers use what's called black book. Idk where you guys pull this information from. The majority of people don't have access to the black book though .

The 52-year-old, widely-used Black Book guide is circulation controlled, restricted to dealers and financing sources. Unlike kbb.com and NADA.com, the Black Book Web site does not provide data, only links you to dealers. The Black Book is the only value guide issued weekly instead of monthly, reflecting the latest prices direct from actual or online automobile dealers.

Whereas other value books or value Web sites may break down value into WHOLESALE and RETAIL numbers or TRADE-IN, PRIVATE PARTY and RETAIL, Black Book truly specializes in WHOLESALE VALUE, determining the value of used cars within categories of EXTRA CLEAN, CLEAN, AVERAGE or ROUGH. Although the others also issue editions for special interest/classic/rare cars, the Black Book's Cars of Particular Interest (CPI) value guide contains over 14,000 vehicles, dating from 1946 to 2007.
My point exactly insurance is giving him wholesale value and he will need to pay retail they do use black book I agree but that's why he shouldn't accept it
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Old Apr 27, 2012 | 04:54 PM
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Originally Posted by speedjunky01
Originally Posted by 305AP1' timestamp='1335550748' post='21649159
[quote name='speedjunky01' timestamp='1335546479' post='21648945']
AZ-S2000 is on the right track, DONT GO BY NADA!!! thats what banks and dealers use for prices when they are buying a car KBB is what you would be paying.

Like I said DON'T cash or accept a check, tell them ok to 13 with keeping the car and even that is a little low.
Umm banks and dealers use what's called black book. Idk where you guys pull this information from. The majority of people don't have access to the black book though .

The 52-year-old, widely-used Black Book guide is circulation controlled, restricted to dealers and financing sources. Unlike kbb.com and NADA.com, the Black Book Web site does not provide data, only links you to dealers. The Black Book is the only value guide issued weekly instead of monthly, reflecting the latest prices direct from actual or online automobile dealers.

Whereas other value books or value Web sites may break down value into WHOLESALE and RETAIL numbers or TRADE-IN, PRIVATE PARTY and RETAIL, Black Book truly specializes in WHOLESALE VALUE, determining the value of used cars within categories of EXTRA CLEAN, CLEAN, AVERAGE or ROUGH. Although the others also issue editions for special interest/classic/rare cars, the Black Book's Cars of Particular Interest (CPI) value guide contains over 14,000 vehicles, dating from 1946 to 2007.
My point exactly insurance is giving him wholesale value and he will need to pay retail they do use black book I agree but that's why he shouldn't accept it
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Statefarms first offer for MY00 was 12,800$ with 145,000 miles on the car let's just say I didn't counter offer . He should recieve way more then what I got
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Old Apr 27, 2012 | 06:01 PM
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Originally Posted by Saki GT
Originally Posted by Arthas' timestamp='1335398672' post='21643437
I already found another S that I am looking into getting once I get my cash, I would love to buy it back, but not sure how long it will take to part out, I am moving by end of may, and any left over parts would just end up being left abandon.

if all goes well , ill just buy it back and start posting a massive part out in all the major forums. a motor with 77k miles should hopefully pay back what ever i spent on buying the car back
parting out takes forever, work, dealing with lowballers, etc. In the end you have part of a car you eventually need to tow away. If you want cash now to get on with your life, just take the settlement and but a new car.
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P.S.: OP, you never did explain how this happened.
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Old Apr 28, 2012 | 07:03 AM
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Should you decide to buy back / part out, please PM me ASAP. Potentially interested in many parts.

Good luck, and glad you're ok.

Also, I'd take the $13,000 without hesitation, but that is just me.
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Old Apr 28, 2012 | 06:45 PM
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They want 5000 to buy back car, and the rep said, they don't use KBB, they use edmunds.com. they are letting me hold onto the car/drive it till they have my check ready. I would like to buy the car back, but anything over 2500 they can go to hell
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Old Apr 28, 2012 | 09:43 PM
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Edmunds? Jeeze.. $ 5,000.00 maybe a bit high, we'll see what the rest says. At 5K It might not be worth parting?
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Old Apr 29, 2012 | 02:48 PM
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Is this for real? How did you manage to do this to a car from what would have been 20-30mph? Slamming on the brakes would have brought you to a stop.

Originally Posted by Arthas
Rear tires are at about 7/32sec's nothing wrong with rear tires.
So tires had grip....


Originally Posted by Arthas
Originally Posted by BirdShot' timestamp='1335398424' post='21643424
Once you get going with a new car, try some drivers schools and autocross.

Sorry for the loss.
autocross was in the near future but my main goal was to leave TX and head back to cali. willow springs and adams track
The track is a more dangerous place than the streets at 30mph. How did you manage to total a car like this? Tell us.

I'm not giving advice on the matter until the truth is known.
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Old Apr 29, 2012 | 04:20 PM
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Originally Posted by rob-2
Is this for real? How did you manage to do this to a car from what would have been 20-30mph? Slamming on the brakes would have brought you to a stop.

Originally Posted by Arthas' timestamp='1335326385' post='21640360
Rear tires are at about 7/32sec's nothing wrong with rear tires.
So tires had grip....


Originally Posted by Arthas
Originally Posted by BirdShot' timestamp='1335398424' post='21643424
Once you get going with a new car, try some drivers schools and autocross.

Sorry for the loss.
autocross was in the near future but my main goal was to leave TX and head back to cali. willow springs and adams track
The track is a more dangerous place than the streets at 30mph. How did you manage to total a car like this? Tell us.

I'm not giving advice on the matter until the truth is known.
I didn't know he asked for your advice . I'm sure he knows what he did and he doesn't have to share it. Who are you ? One thing is for sure, he has learned from his mistake.
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Old Apr 29, 2012 | 08:58 PM
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Originally Posted by 305AP1
Originally Posted by rob-2' timestamp='1335739730' post='21653780
Is this for real? How did you manage to do this to a car from what would have been 20-30mph? Slamming on the brakes would have brought you to a stop.

[quote name='Arthas' timestamp='1335326385' post='21640360']
Rear tires are at about 7/32sec's nothing wrong with rear tires.
So tires had grip....


Originally Posted by Arthas
Originally Posted by BirdShot' timestamp='1335398424' post='21643424
Once you get going with a new car, try some drivers schools and autocross.

Sorry for the loss.
autocross was in the near future but my main goal was to leave TX and head back to cali. willow springs and adams track
The track is a more dangerous place than the streets at 30mph. How did you manage to total a car like this? Tell us.

I'm not giving advice on the matter until the truth is known.
I didn't know he asked for your advice . I'm sure he knows what he did and he doesn't have to share it. Who are you ? One thing is for sure, he has learned from his mistake.
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He sure is asking for a lot of help with very few details.
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