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Old Oct 25, 2003 | 01:31 AM
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The problem with tires that have 40% left on them is, not only do they not channel the same amount of water as when they are new, but the rubber will harden to some degree. Less rubber also means that the tire will not compress as much, hence, less adhesion.

I don't mean any disrespect, but 36 front and 34 rear is way to much in the rain. I would maybe try, 29, 29 to start with. Also consider your tires have 40% left on them. Ok for the dry, not for the wet. To much air pressure makes the tires to hard, not what you want in the rain. They also might balloon out in the center, reducing contact patch.

As far as wheel spin in a straight line, this car has 240 hp. I can see this on an incline because you have to apply power to climb, but it would seem not cool happening downhill.

I have lost traction and have been sideways on a uphill climb at 65 mph many times on a wet and twisty hwy. 17. Some of this has to do with the type of asphalt as well as air pressure, wheel alignment, how much water and other factors.
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Old Oct 25, 2003 | 02:11 AM
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[QUOTE]Originally posted by F20c1 & E36
I had 2 occasion.
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Old Oct 25, 2003 | 03:20 AM
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I had Dunlop SP9000s on the car (supposedly good rain tyres) when I had my crash at the Nurburgring in the rain. Yup, the rear just slipped and the car ran right into the wall! 36m Armco damage....

I took a look at the track later on and deduced that one tyre ran into a puddle, lost grip, LSD sent grip to other side, lost all grip as well, so with NO grip, the rear just slid away. Good argument for those running open diffs!

The Dunlops had only around 40% tread in the rear as well.
Be careful out there!

///Robin
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Old Oct 25, 2003 | 04:29 AM
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[QUOTE]Originally posted by Presidente
if you think driving
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Old Oct 25, 2003 | 05:16 AM
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Presidente only has 4000 miles on his S02's, LOL. Seriously, if you drive according to the road conditions you shouldn't have a problem. Avoid taking sharp corners in the rain like the pavement was dry and you'll be ok.
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Old Oct 25, 2003 | 05:49 AM
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Presidente. Spent 400 bucks and get new tires.

Do it for your family!!! No joke, those tires are going to get you wrapped around a telephone pole.
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Old Oct 25, 2003 | 09:25 AM
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[QUOTE]Originally posted by HI SPEEDR
Presidente only has 4000 miles on his S02's, LOL.
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Old Oct 25, 2003 | 09:28 AM
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Originally posted by blaks2k
Presidente. Spent 400 bucks and get new tires.

Do it for your family!!! No joke, those tires are going to get you wrapped around a telephone pole.
I already got new tires a month ago i just took these pictures a day before I bought the new tires, I wanted s-02s but the store didnt have any in stock and i didnt want to wait one more day for new tires so i bought yoko avs db s2's , they are ok so far. thanks for being concerned
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Old Oct 25, 2003 | 11:49 AM
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[QUOTE]Originally posted by Presidente
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Old Oct 25, 2003 | 12:24 PM
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JoeKing1978...you are right....besides the insurance adjustment, the most difficult things to get through after an incident on wet roads ARE the flashbacks. It took me well over a month to drive over 35 in the rain after my crash...well, ok...but close to that

For those new to the car, with four good tires, warm weather (65+), and common sense, this car is better...just as predictable ...in rain as another RWD car. With new tires, I now have no hesitation in pushing through turns...getting a bit loose back there....but its ONLY because I checked my tires the last time I fueled.

As is most often the case with this car, the deficits are primarily the fault of the driver. Give me a brand new S2000 and now that I've had nearly 3-years behind the wheel, I'll drive it in a hurricane. Maybe not like I would have when I first got it, but I'll arrive alive. To me, this car's greatest variable is not the tires, LSD, 50/50 weighting....it is the person sitting behind the wheel, and that's something we ALL can correct, if needed.

Hope this helps those who might wonder about the "problems" the car is too often saddled with. Have fun....be wise.
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