fyi the people that made the s2000 killed the s2000

 

I'm just happy they ran production as long as they did!! It started out as anniversary present.

 

I'm pretty sure the s2000 died off because it was never intended to be a huge profit yielding car, the global economy is in the tank, and the vehicle is generally pretty impractical for daily driving (not that most of us don't DD the cars anyway). Besides, what good is 9k as a novelty if there is more torque in the 2.2L at lower RPM? I'd hardly say that dropping to an 8k redline somehow equates to Honda trying to emulate a Chevy engine. If anything it was a response to the impracticality of redlining a 9k engine frequently to make power.

 

The red line has nothing to do with the S2K sales. It was the economy. Many 2-seaters were purchased as 2nd or 3rd cars by middle aged buyers and they became something that most people could do without. It's only the younger owner that makes a big deal about the redline, and I would bet few of the current owners bought them new. An auto trans option would probably have improved sales a bit but I think Honda would have stopped production anyway. I don't think Boxter sales are setting the world on fire right now either.

If the redline reduction had any thing to do with low sales, why aren't motorcycles selling better? The adverage redline on bikes keep going up and sales go down. Why??

Thats what I'm thinking.

 

The car was killed because the design was ten years old and besides the AP2 update, Honda did nothing with the car. Plus Honda has no modern interest in building anything sporting (don't throw that CRZ bullshit at me).

Anyone know if the s2k was even considered a commercially successful car? I know sales were pretty low during the last production years.

 

What killed it was the price vs. the people who wanted the car. This car is really a niche kind of car. One thing though is good used ones are selling very high in price right now. I've even come across some individuals who had buyers willing to pay them a premium for a good used one.I myself wasn't willing to pay more than what the blue book wanted for a private party value,but some people are looking for those ones that are pretty much mint without modifications, and they are willing to pay more.

 

Very rarely do you get an increase in sales number as the years go on, especially a roadster. Worldwide sales peaked around 2000 and from then on it declined.

To think the redline is what caused the sales to dwindle down is ridiculous. Think about it.....

 

ever driven an ap1?

 

There were more years (US) of AP2 (F22C) than AP1...nuff said.

From 2000, sales numbers were on a steady decline and actually started to nose-dive with the 2003 model year. We find an increase in sales from 2004 to 2005:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Honda_S...and_production

Redline has nothing to do with performance, it's only a arbitrary bragging right.

 

This is the most relevant and intelligent statement I've seen in the sea of ap1 vs ap2 talk, thank you.