Nope! You can count me too.

 

Its happened to me, I got little tail happy on a freeway on ramp. got crossed up to the left, and got that under control, over corrected, and then the other way, and got that straighting out, and BAM its like someone just kicks me in the rear end.... now I have much more respect for this car, and a lot smoother touch. there is a video here somwhere that demostrates what Im talking about. I know It was my fault this happened. but my car will snap oversteer. with all due respect .I know I was there.

 

The car's steering is much different from any other car i've driven. You can't fight it, you just have to be smooth. It takes little effort to correct once you don't panic and snap the steering Just have fun and enjoy the ride

 

I believe in snap oversteer. Snap the steering wheel to one side while gunning the engine, and you have "snap" oversteer.

I just don't think the problem is with the car.

 

When people say snap oversteer I'm assuming it's probably when the driver lifts off the gas or touchs the brakes (or jump on the clutch) in a turn and they don't realize what they did. Transfer the weight forward, the back end unloads and gets loose. Bad news in a turn.

Hitting the gas while in a turn brings on PIO (power induced oversteer), I don't think this would be considered a 'snap'

 

When most people use the term "snap oversteer", they are implying this as a characteristic of the car. I, for one, do not believe this to be the case.

And I see that many of you also believe this:
Let's look at "drifting", for example. This is simply the driver induced control of a snap oversteer situation that he himself, initiated.

So many people blame the car for doing something that they caused and didn't know how to counter.

 

I always thought drifting as a sustained power slide. I don't think it's a controlled snap oversteer since if the back end comes around, you won't be able to catch it, no matter how fast/good you are. Porsche's are good at this when tracktion control os off.

When drifting, the back end can come around on the driver quickly, but I don't think it's 'snapping around' as some of the drivers here have described. Rotation during drifting is a lot slower.

When you start a power slide (aka drift) you can snap the wheel out of, then quickly back into the turn to transfer the weight and get the back end loose. For a great example of this, ride along with the instructors at Skip Barber at Laguna Seca at the top of the corkscrew (8a) when they turn right at 60mph (for a left turn!!).

But I agree with you... it's the driver's fault in every case I have ever read here, not the car. Bald tires, too fast for the environment, poor car control skills/inexperienced driver seem to cover about 99% of the 'snap spins' I have read about here (or on other boards).

 

Yup, I remember one 360 last year at the Tire Rack.

 

I believe in "snap oversteer" but I know by its more failiar name, "dumb ass driver uncontrolled input". Also I prefer not to pick up chicks in my Stook as I don't like the kind that are attracted to it (no offence to your sister, I mean uh girlfriend or wife).

 

I feel very confident behind the wheel.....Actually I find the S is hard to get out of shape and if it does get tail happy it's pretty easy to control.....Either modulate the throttle or lift for a millisecond and the car corrects itself.....It's hard to screw up in this car.....