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does the notchy gears bother anyone else?

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Old Oct 27, 2002 | 04:12 PM
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Originally posted by lostsol
I finally took my car home yesterday and found that shifting from 1st to 2nd and 2nd to 3rd was a bit notchy (if that makes sense), not smooth at all. How can I $30K+ car tranny feel worse than a $15K civic? Any recommendations?
I would assume you are used to a Ford, GM or Chrysler transmission. They all shift like they are on rubber bands. Welcome to the world of precision engineering. Your S2000 shifts the way a real performance car is supposed to shift. Trust me, once you get used to it, everything else will feel like shit compared to it. I have driven nothing but manual transmission cars for the last 17 years and NOTHING I have ever driven shifts nearly as well as my S2000. For even better results, order a countersunk shift knob from Muz. They are awesome!
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Old Oct 27, 2002 | 04:24 PM
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Originally posted by GChambers


I would assume you are used to a Ford, GM or Chrysler transmission. They all shift like they are on rubber bands. Welcome to the world of precision engineering. Your S2000 shifts the way a real performance car is supposed to shift. Trust me, once you get used to it, everything else will feel like shit compared to it. I have driven nothing but manual transmission cars for the last 17 years and NOTHING I have ever driven shifts nearly as well as my S2000. For even better results, order a countersunk shift knob from Muz. They are awesome!
This brings up an interesting thought.... What do I get after this that won't disappoint me?
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Old Oct 27, 2002 | 05:26 PM
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so the notchiness is normal regardless of what Tranny fluid I use?
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Old Oct 27, 2002 | 06:01 PM
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Yes I am having trouble sometimes shifting from 1st to neutral(this is with the clutch in).
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Old Oct 27, 2002 | 06:23 PM
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lostsol and sumir: Try the following-

1) When shifting, push the clutch pedal down earlier than you are now.

2) If you want the gearbox to shift smoothly, rev matching is the correct answer, but it is difficult without experience. The starting point is to simply increase the RPM's while shifting. Try this:

-Don't let off on the gas as much or as early when upshifting.

-You have to use a heel and toe move to blip the gas pedal while braking and downshifting.

3) To avoid the 1st to 2nd (or 2nd to 1st) gear grinding, you must hold the shift lever ALL THE WAY to the left during the ENTIRE transition. As stated above, you must also be uprevving.

4) When the car is cold, do not VTEC. Also, do not shift it at low RPMs. When cold, if I shift below 4000 RPMs, it's very notchy. Between 4000 and 4500 RPMs = butter.

Note: My s2k has all of the aforementioned shifting problems, however, if I shift it like a racecar, it shifts perfectly, every time.

I hope this helps.
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Old Oct 28, 2002 | 04:42 PM
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I keep hearing all these people complaining about the way their cars shift. Maybe there was a bad run of transmissions or some other part that is causing this.
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Old Oct 28, 2002 | 06:11 PM
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A lot of times when I pull it out of first, it makes a loud clunking sound in the rear end. It may be some sort of backlash, but it is aggravating.
Don't try to put it into first if you're going too fast, unless of course you double clutch (Which fixes everything in this tranny).
Start practicing the double-clutch/heal-and-toe downshift now. It helps.
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Old Oct 28, 2002 | 08:38 PM
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[QUOTE]Originally posted by Kodokan_4
[B]lostsol and sumir: Try the following-

1) When shifting, push the clutch pedal down earlier than you are now.

2) If you want the gearbox to shift smoothly, rev matching is the correct answer, but it is difficult without experience. The starting point is to simply increase the RPM's while shifting. Try this:

-Don't let off on the gas as much or as early when upshifting.

-You have to use a heel and toe move to blip the gas pedal while braking and downshifting.

3) To avoid the 1st to 2nd (or 2nd to 1st) gear grinding, you must hold the shift lever ALL THE WAY to the left during the ENTIRE transition. As stated above, you must also be uprevving.

4) When the car is cold, do not VTEC. Also, do not shift it at low RPMs. When cold, if I shift below 4000 RPMs, it's very notchy. Between 4000 and 4500 RPMs = butter.
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Old Oct 28, 2002 | 09:33 PM
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You arn't the only one with this problem, I literally have to muscle my transmission into and out of 1st gear as well. I find myself when trying to shift into 2nd gear, that I literally have to muscle it out of 1st gear because it sticks and won't release, even though I have the clutch pedal down all the way. I believe this might be the same reason why my transmission grinds going into 2nd gear a lot. Now that the weather is cold, 3rd gear has started getting really notchy as well and won't smooth out unless I do several vtec runs to heat things up. 4th gear grinds often as well just like when I try to get into 2nd gear. Reverse will simply not engage as well and I have to put blip the shifter into 6th, then quickly into reverse to engage reverse. I believe that a bad throwout bearing may be the culprit for my transmission trouble, especially since I hear a metallic rattle everything I press or depress the clutch pedal rapidly. The dealer is offering me no help and has suggested that I bring the transmission back when it's "blown." I don't want to wait till I blow my transmission, I bought a brand new car and it should have came with a properly operating transmission from the factory. It did this from day one, and when I had the tech drive it, he couldn't get it to grind because he was rev matching and said that's the only way I should shift. I refuse to do that because that's what syncronizers are for.
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