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how the hell they gonna let the dad do the complete report, I know he a cop and he should very well, but cmon. Hulk Hogan son must be pissed that his dad is a champ wrestler instead of a cop, because he would have gotten away too.
Originally Posted by mikegarrison,Jan 3 2008, 03:26 PM
What, that your kid kills himself and somebody else? Some perk.
In contrast, should this have happened to one of us (or our children) the scenario would be played quite differently.
Instead of:
"We can say for sure that there was absolutely no alcohol involved. There was also no alcohol in the vehicle,"
We would see:
"Further blood tests are pending and we are checking to see if they may have obtained alcohol illegally from another source or party. Authorities are also looking for witnesses that may have observed reckless behavior, racing, or road rage. Extensive damage to vehicle suggests speed may have been a factor"
Originally Posted by kamui157,Jan 3 2008, 09:06 AM
I live about 5 mins from that intersection. Most of that section of road is straight.
It's a 12 lane highway. 6 in each direction, 3 in the middle,3 on the sides. There are intermitten crossing sections between the dividers. They must've tried to cross the divider at speed and missed. They are kind of dangerous if you're not used to them.
It's a 12 lane highway. 6 in each direction, 3 in the middle,3 on the sides. There are intermitten crossing sections between the dividers. They must've tried to cross the divider at speed and missed. They are kind of dangerous if you're not used to them.
My condolences to the family.
Originally Posted by Ruprecht,Jan 3 2008, 03:42 PM
No, the perk is having cops falling all over themselves to prove that this accident did not involve alcohol, speed, or other irresponsible behavior.
Nevertheless, I think it is a different approach to the situation that could be classified as a 'perk'.
The perk is at a modicum level, a bit of softening to not add more misery at the loss.
At it's heaviest (unethical?) level, the perk could be directing attention away from friends or family members that provided alcohol or participated in negligent behavior, that could somehow be involved in the chain of responsibility.
I mean, really...when a cop says "no alcohol was in the car, therefore there was ABSOLUTELY no alcohol involved" ya gotta go hmmmm.
It is a shame this occurred, and I do feel sorry for those impacted. I bring this up only to address the question of perks earlier.
It is important to ask these questions I think.
a) if truly the operator was driving at legal speed, with no impairment, no distractions, an no irresponsible behavior, then what happened? tires? car defect? highway problem? I recall a guy on here a couple of years or so ago that said he was driving on a level grade on the highway, no excessive speed, not in acceleration, and his car locked up and went into a spin. Understanding the cause here will help not only us as owners, but public safety in general.
b) if there are other non-equipment, non-road factors involved in this accident, understanding those factors might reduce the chances this will occur next week, month or year.
The perk is at a modicum level, a bit of softening to not add more misery at the loss.
At it's heaviest (unethical?) level, the perk could be directing attention away from friends or family members that provided alcohol or participated in negligent behavior, that could somehow be involved in the chain of responsibility.
I mean, really...when a cop says "no alcohol was in the car, therefore there was ABSOLUTELY no alcohol involved" ya gotta go hmmmm.
It is a shame this occurred, and I do feel sorry for those impacted. I bring this up only to address the question of perks earlier.
It is important to ask these questions I think.
a) if truly the operator was driving at legal speed, with no impairment, no distractions, an no irresponsible behavior, then what happened? tires? car defect? highway problem? I recall a guy on here a couple of years or so ago that said he was driving on a level grade on the highway, no excessive speed, not in acceleration, and his car locked up and went into a spin. Understanding the cause here will help not only us as owners, but public safety in general.
b) if there are other non-equipment, non-road factors involved in this accident, understanding those factors might reduce the chances this will occur next week, month or year.
Judging from the wreck it definitely had something to do with speed. Sucks about the Kids but I hope people learn from this tragedy and not blame the car. A car is only as dangerous as the person that drives it. RIP.
Originally Posted by mikegarrison,Jan 3 2008, 06:26 PM
What, that your kid kills himself and somebody else? Some perk.
But, let's say it was some hoodlum driving the car, having the same exact accident, only the driver survived and killed an innocent teen standing on the corner who happened to be the son of a police officer. I guarantee you the article would have read different.
Those are the perks.
Originally Posted by Mikes256,Jan 3 2008, 07:19 PM
But, let's say it was some hoodlum driving the car, having the same exact accident, only the driver survived and killed an innocent teen standing on the corner who happened to be the son of a police officer.



