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Old Jan 3, 2008 | 09:35 PM
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Originally Posted by MikeyCB,Jan 3 2008, 11:34 PM
Whoops, maybe I should've answer Yes to the "Are you a snob" poll
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Old Jan 3, 2008 | 10:33 PM
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Originally Posted by MikeyCB,Jan 4 2008, 12:55 AM
Hmmmm at midnight or 3

The kid made a mistake and paid for it. My friend dying in a street racing accident in Toronto really shed some light on things and I completely pulled back aggressive tendencies I had on the road. None of these kids with "souped-up" cars deserve to die, they just don't realize the consequences.

This is the classic problem with depreciation of high-performance cars, they become attainable to those who are not necessarily ready for them yet. I never would've thought it growing up, but it's in the hands of the parents to keep their kids as safe as possible (within reason) and preventing them from driving cars like this is one way to do it.
Parents can only prevent so much. I also think it's wrong to place all blame on the parents. 19 year olds are not babies, it's up to them to exercise responsible behavior as well. Sadly, this is often not the case, but sure as hell no one deserves to die for this. It's very sad, and one can only hope this will inspire people to drive slower on the road. The road is not the place to speed, take the car to a track where speeding can be done safely.
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Old Jan 3, 2008 | 11:10 PM
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Originally Posted by BD89,Jan 4 2008, 12:33 AM
Parents can only prevent so much. I also think it's wrong to place all blame on the parents. 19 year olds are not babies, it's up to them to exercise responsible behavior as well. Sadly, this is often not the case, but sure as hell no one deserves to die for this. It's very sad, and one can only hope this will inspire people to drive slower on the road. The road is not the place to speed, take the car to a track where speeding can be done safely.
Now don't take it further than I did. I said the kid made a mistake behind the wheel and generally speaking (like I said, within reason) parents need to encourage access to safer options and seriously discourage the potentially fatal ones.

I'm not a fan of parents coddling their children by any means, I grew up in school with some dysfunctional kids whose parents were way overprotective and it did them no favors. But when we're talking about allowing kids to have access to vehicles that by their MSRP alone were not an option for most people under the age of 25, there is a little responsibility in the hands of the parents to draw the line. That's my thought on it. Just because people can afford certain things doesn't mean they're entitled to them.
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Old Jan 3, 2008 | 11:23 PM
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[QUOTE=MikeyCB,Jan 4 2008, 03:10 AM] Now don't take it further than I did.
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Old Jan 3, 2008 | 11:51 PM
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[QUOTE=BD89,Jan 4 2008, 01:23 AM] What does the last sentence mean?
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Old Jan 4, 2008 | 02:27 AM
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Despite knowing so little, I suggest that enough is
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Old Jan 4, 2008 | 03:15 AM
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All the younger members are going to howl, but I agree that youth and inexperience probably contributed to this accident, even without the presence of alcohol. Too much car for most younger drivers. Sad that it turned out this way.
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Old Jan 4, 2008 | 05:04 AM
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Originally Posted by MsPerky,Jan 4 2008, 04:15 AM
All the younger members are going to howl, but I agree that youth and inexperience probably contributed to this accident, even without the presence of alcohol. Too much car for most younger drivers. Sad that it turned out this way.
I'll agree with that. Even at the ripe old age of 24 (25 in one week ). When I was 18, I *knew* I could handle a car like this, but in retrospect I was probably wrong. Even in the past few years, my driving has become more responsible.

Not to say that young folks can't be good drivers, but they're also most prone to over-confidence and irresponsible behavior.
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Old Jan 4, 2008 | 07:06 AM
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wow... RIP.

from looks of the pic, i'm betting he flew by the tiburon at the top of 3rd... shifted to 4th and drove over either a sewer or a bump/pothole at the same time causing the rear to slide, probably clipping the curb with a rear tire, causing an axle/control arm to break and locking up the wheel and that is when he try's to correct but the non spinning wheel doesn't allow him to. this is when the car hits the hard objects that don't give.

this is very sad. Just goes to show all of us that life can end easily at any time no matter how invincable you think you are.
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Old Jan 4, 2008 | 07:20 AM
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Originally Posted by SlackerUSC,Jan 4 2008, 07:04 AM
I'll agree with that. Even at the ripe old age of 24 (25 in one week ). When I was 18, I *knew* I could handle a car like this, but in retrospect I was probably wrong. Even in the past few years, my driving has become more responsible.

Not to say that young folks can't be good drivers, but they're also most prone to over-confidence and irresponsible behavior.
completely.

Almost as though I wrote that myself, except 25 in a little less than 3 months.
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