f1 also uses paddle shifters, would those be "good enough for you" as well? that is just a bad analogy. our car is far from an f1 car, as much as we all love it.

 

don't know if you guys are following the i-vtec thread but they have only developed the kit for 00-05 because of the AEM EMS isn't a piggy back its a stand alone system. If they develope a kit for it, it will yield major gains n/a or FI

https://www.s2ki.com/forums/index.ph...=712492&st=525

 

yes, paddle shifters would be nice too.

My point is that F1 is the pinnacle of racing and advancement in automotive technology. If F1 is using DBW in their cars, then there is probably a reason for it.

 

I guess the conclusion is DBW is so good in these cars, it shouldn't be a deal breaker.

If you find a cleaner 05 with less miles for less money, i don't think you should pass that up though.

 

Key to the decision on an 04/05 or later for me wasn't DBW--it was VSA---(I don't want to debate the merits of VSA here--I made my decison on what was important to me----there are dozens of threads debating the pros/cons of VSA already out there--you have to decide the merits of that arguement on your own)

I think the differences between DBW and non-DBW are so subtle, you'd be used to either one in a few days (as I posted earlier, I've had an 05 and currently have an 07---they're slightly different but neither one was necessarily better than the other---the VSA is important to me and that's the main reason I got the later year--I'm sure there are others that feel the opposite way)

Suggest you drive both and if VSA isn't important to you, go with whichever one you like and find the best deal on--can't go wrong with either choice. If VSA is important to you, then the DBW won't matter as much in the decision process

Good luck in your decision proces and search and keep us posted on how it turns out

 

No idea there. But we're comparing cable throttles on this and other cars to DBW on this car, and I'm sure the spring settings aren't the same for every cable throttle; ie a '92 Miata and a '00 Corvette probably aren't using a system with identical stiffness. Since people don't complain about the feel of this cable throttle versus that one, it's not an issue what the spring is set to (within the range of what's been done in the past anyways). So I don't think that matters.

And the throttle hanging and some of the other issues are certainly not all in your head. Poor implementation of DBW creates quite a few real issues, but I just wanted to point out that not using a cable isn't the source of the problems. The problems are rooted in the ECU/programming/lag/etc--what they do once they have the electronic signal.

 

I have an 08 Si and the rev hang is, without a doubt, the worst feature of the car. It kills the driving experience. I'm so happy to hear the S2K doesn't suffer the same way.

 

So after hearing all of this, researching VSA and flashpro, I'm def looking for an 06+. Just seems to make more sense afterall. Esp since it's not as bad as my B7 A4 Thanks guys

 

welcome!!
you gota keep us posted on how your search for your own S2k turns out....

 

paddles would kill it! I had dsg on my last car (08 gti) and paddles are faster than a manual now, but they just take out a lot of the fun of driving.