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Old Oct 30, 2005 | 07:51 AM
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Thumbs up F-Series and i-VTEC

Why didn't Honda make the F-series engines with i-VTEC? Everything that I have read thus far states that i-VTEC is a tuner's dream come true.
Old Oct 30, 2005 | 08:11 AM
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I think because i-vtec was only introduced in 2000/01 and the S was in production in 99 in Japan

And because the S's engine has been voted best in many surveys throughout the years since production they won't change it to i-vtec until it becomes out dated and when they do they are probably going to give the S a full overhaul anyway

If it aint broke. . . .
Old Oct 30, 2005 | 08:28 AM
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Because honda doesn't want a bunch of S2000's that can make 312 whp n/a and rev to 10,000 rpms running around the street. SCC recently did a N/A RSX-S build to those specs.
Old Oct 30, 2005 | 10:10 AM
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i think i read somewhere that there isnt room in the s2000 head for the extra stuff. im probably wrong, though.
Old Oct 30, 2005 | 10:16 AM
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Originally Posted by CosmosMpower,Oct 30 2005, 09:28 AM
Because honda doesn't want a bunch of S2000's that can make 312 whp n/a and rev to 10,000 rpms running around the street. SCC recently did a N/A RSX-S build to those specs.
yea, i've seen lots of "300" HP NA RSXs/Sis. C&D super4 shootout cars couldn't even get into the 13s for christ's sake.

a 300HP RSX should run a 13 flat or less.
Old Oct 30, 2005 | 10:17 AM
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Originally Posted by fshwcrs,Oct 30 2005, 11:10 AM
i think i read somewhere that there isnt room in the s2000 head for the extra stuff. im probably wrong, though.
you're right. the cam gear design is too compact. Honda would have to make a whole new small cam phaser; they could not reuse the K series one.

Honda isn't going to do a major redesign until the car is replaced. it costs too much. BTW, the AP2 is not a major redesign.
Old Oct 30, 2005 | 10:24 AM
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would i vtec make the s better? how?
Old Oct 30, 2005 | 11:05 AM
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i-VTEC allows you to fully tune each cam angle and thus make the most amount of power while still maintaining a high degree of efficiency.

It really disappoints me to know that the K-series engines have better tuning capabilities than the F-series.
Old Oct 30, 2005 | 11:35 AM
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Could you put i-VTEC heads on a F20 or F22?
Old Oct 30, 2005 | 11:53 AM
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Originally Posted by RVM,Oct 30 2005, 01:35 PM
Could you put i-VTEC heads on a F20 or F22?
Are you talking about having something like a F20/F22 block and a K20A2 head? I have no idea if something like that is even feasible.



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