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but don't force your tree hugging tendencies on us. in fact, why drive a car at all? you should bike everywhere. oh and stop using all sorts of manufactured things like plastic and clothes and in fact, do you know the pollution caused in manufacturing gasoline? You should stop using that too. Oh and don't use computers anymore either, including the one you use to post on the internet. lots of pollution caused by all the manufacturing and shipping of the parts in your computer too. i could go on and on
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WOW. Yeah, you tell that bleeding-heart liberal tree-hugging hippie, and don't let anybody tell you you're wildly (perhaps even insanely) over-reacting to a pretty straightforward question. In fact, "this is 'merica, and if you don't like it, you can GET OUT."

We're Mericans, damnit.

 

Like someone has said above, the FEDERAL fine for not running a catalytic converter can be $2500. Your STATE fines will vary between each state obviously. And as most people have said, many people run a test pipe without any incident... in fact a lot of people in my area have gotten their car inspected with the test pipe on there. Around here, they don't even check at all. Lastly, the damage done to the environment from a LEV Honda running catless is pretty much nil.

Still, some people (like myself) prefer to not risk the potential fines for 6-7whp.

 

lol sorry, i thought you were gonna read us the riot act, so i was preemptively striking.

 

i meant portable sniffers lol not police noses

 

TP for my bunghole = no cel.

 

actually that may not be true....if you read the statute it's not clear how it applies to generic end users. It most definately applys to those who sell vehicles but depending upon interpretation it may not apply to the end user removing his own cat. At anyrate it is relatively moot. If you get pulled over and get caught you're going to be written up under the state statute not the federal one.

 

exactly. you're not going to get a $2500 ticket from a cop who pulls you over.

in cali it's $350 if they even find it. (FYI i have yet to see a single TP owner say they got pulled over and fined for their TP)

 

In California it is a $1500 fine last time I checked. It is an illegal modifcation to the smog system and therefore both a California CARB violation but more unfortunate a Federal EPA violation. California is of course the worse state for smog rules and regulations which is why everyone has to make 2 kinds of cars, the California model and the 49 state model. Other states are adopting California rules which is sad but that's what happens when someone decides cars are the cause of all air related problems vs. ships, power plants, factories, and not to mention light truck and SUV's. The fine is stiff and not worth the risk, at least in California. Cops used to sit outside of the street legal drags in Pomona and write tickets for this and other "smog" related violations.

 

I have yet to see a post from someone who actually got fined as well. Everyone just seems to guess.

 

Really nice attitude from a Moderator. You give the S2000 community and S2KI such a responsible image. Cthree must be very proud of you.