First oil change
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From: Redlands
Originally posted by Utah S2K
Oil will be burned until the skirt seals are properly seated. The "break-in oil is high in Molybdenum. I soft metal which will fill in the very minor scratches which occur during machining. I just changed mine out at 4,200 miles. My oil sample is heading to Blackstone(www.blackstone-labs.com) for complete analysis tomorrow.
Oil will be burned until the skirt seals are properly seated. The "break-in oil is high in Molybdenum. I soft metal which will fill in the very minor scratches which occur during machining. I just changed mine out at 4,200 miles. My oil sample is heading to Blackstone(www.blackstone-labs.com) for complete analysis tomorrow.
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From: Mish-she-gan
Barry, you're preaching to follow Honda's bible but you're not recommending it. JGrnen's "year" is not up until June 2002 and he's not even close to 3,750 miles (early change). 
My recommendation would satisfy both requirements. I still stand by it.
Honda says the oil can remain in a car for a year - and I would certainly agree. If not for the "break in oil", I agree with you, before storage is ok. Based on my readings, it's important NOT to change it normal oil too early.
Secondly, I've been changing my oil annually in the same MG for 30 years and I've always done it the Spring. My reasoning is I want the cleanest oil in there when I driving it hard, rather than storing it. Before or after storage is a personal choice, either way it's in the car a year.
My recommendation would satisfy both requirements. I still stand by it.
Honda says the oil can remain in a car for a year - and I would certainly agree. If not for the "break in oil", I agree with you, before storage is ok. Based on my readings, it's important NOT to change it normal oil too early.
Secondly, I've been changing my oil annually in the same MG for 30 years and I've always done it the Spring. My reasoning is I want the cleanest oil in there when I driving it hard, rather than storing it. Before or after storage is a personal choice, either way it's in the car a year.
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From: Sheridan
dlq04, I think JGren's car is a year old and he bought it at the end of June, 2000, rather than the end of June, 2001. since he says:
[QUOTE]Originally posted by JGrnen
[B]After reading this thread I am trying to figure out when to change the oil for the first time.
[QUOTE]Originally posted by JGrnen
[B]After reading this thread I am trying to figure out when to change the oil for the first time.
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From: Naperville
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I bought the car in June 2001 but it is a 2000 model year which the deal had on the lot since October. I guess the cool spring we had here in Chicago resulted in no sales of S2K's until June. They also had a used MY2000 with 1500 miles and about 10 MY2001. I decided on the MY2000 because it had all of the dealer options (front spoiler and rear wing, wind block, floor mats, black chrome emblem, wheel locks and the behind the seat storage) which they gave me for free. So the car is about a year old but only had 5 miles on it when I drove it off the lot. A friend of mine is the service manager at the dealer and he is saying change it at 3000 miles or 3 months. I think I will change it before and after storage.
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I bought the car in June 2001 but it is a 2000 model year which the deal had on the lot since October. I guess the cool spring we had here in Chicago resulted in no sales of S2K's until June. They also had a used MY2000 with 1500 miles and about 10 MY2001. I decided on the MY2000 because it had all of the dealer options (front spoiler and rear wing, wind block, floor mats, black chrome emblem, wheel locks and the behind the seat storage) which they gave me for free. So the car is about a year old but only had 5 miles on it when I drove it off the lot. A friend of mine is the service manager at the dealer and he is saying change it at 3000 miles or 3 months. I think I will change it before and after storage.
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From: Mish-she-gan
See your point, however, even if it's model year 2000, the oil sitting in a an unused car (ie, 5 miles), is no different than oil sitting on the shelf in store before you buy it. I have not seen any "born on dates" on oil cans yet. 
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I could solve this dilemma and just drive another 2000 miles over the next 2 and half months. Problem is I won't drive it in the rain and can not get the kids hockey bag and sticks in the trunk.
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From: Mish-she-gan
I totally agree -- driving it is the correct answer to the "fresh oil vs. break-in oil" debate.
The other answer is to have your dealer friend get you more break-in oil for the change, since there is lots of lead time.
The other answer is to have your dealer friend get you more break-in oil for the change, since there is lots of lead time.
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From: Sheridan
dlq04, I completely agree with you that the clock starts running when you buy the car, not when it is manufactured. If the engine sat at the dealers with only five miles on the odometer, his year isn't up until June, 2002.
You advised him to have the dealer get more "break-in" oil. As of January, 2001, that was impossible. There is no Honda part number for "break-in" oil. When AHM supplies the dealer with a new short block, the dealer fills the engine with his standard oil and AHM says it makes no difference.
Go figure.
In previous threads, we have hypothecized that this might be because some of the "magic" of the "break-in" oil comes from the molybdenum which is in the delivered short block.
You advised him to have the dealer get more "break-in" oil. As of January, 2001, that was impossible. There is no Honda part number for "break-in" oil. When AHM supplies the dealer with a new short block, the dealer fills the engine with his standard oil and AHM says it makes no difference.
Go figure.
In previous threads, we have hypothecized that this might be because some of the "magic" of the "break-in" oil comes from the molybdenum which is in the delivered short block.
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From: Roswell
Man, now you guys REALLY confused me...I have about 5222 miles on mine...but even from when i bought the car, i had an understanding that the first oil change was at 3750 (to let the rings set). Now i'm reading that it was 3750 for harsh driving conditions.??!!! So what is it? when should i get my 2nd oil change? And is there any extra service i need to do to it also? thanks guys
tony
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