Future of the S2000?
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From: Denver
Originally Posted by scotchtape,Sep 16 2004, 11:49 AM
the majority of the things you said in your post are untrue..don't post your opinions like they are facts...it misleads people and makes you sound not credible
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Im not sure what i said was untrue other then the comments which predict something and it being my last comment 
. If its the comment about being hand built, im sorry its put together by hand.
Car companies most definitely make cars to build their name, i.e. viper. Also S2000 was a anniversary edition and it was limited edition the first year. Which is part of the reason some were going for above 35000 when they first came out.
. If its the comment about being hand built, im sorry its put together by hand.Car companies most definitely make cars to build their name, i.e. viper. Also S2000 was a anniversary edition and it was limited edition the first year. Which is part of the reason some were going for above 35000 when they first came out.
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Originally Posted by jays2k02,Sep 16 2004, 02:59 PM
Has anybody even made a collector's item lately?
Car companies are in the business of volume. If they make a vehicle that sells well they will up production and feed the masses. They aren't interested in making collectors items...they are interested in making money.
Cars now days seem to create cult followings due to their low volume numbers, which isn't to say they won't hold their value better because of their cult following.
I guess what I'm trying to say is S2000's are low volume because of low sales...and low sales equal redo or termination. Just look at the RX7, 300zx, and Supra of the mid 90's. They all used to be high volume cars, but as the volume decreased so did their viabilty. All were cancelled.
Camaro and Firebird....Need I Say More?
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Car companies are in the business of volume. If they make a vehicle that sells well they will up production and feed the masses. They aren't interested in making collectors items...they are interested in making money.
Cars now days seem to create cult followings due to their low volume numbers, which isn't to say they won't hold their value better because of their cult following.
I guess what I'm trying to say is S2000's are low volume because of low sales...and low sales equal redo or termination. Just look at the RX7, 300zx, and Supra of the mid 90's. They all used to be high volume cars, but as the volume decreased so did their viabilty. All were cancelled.
Camaro and Firebird....Need I Say More?
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From: Newtown,PA
Originally Posted by mbilderback,Sep 16 2004, 12:26 PM
Sorry, no flaming here. But, the S was never made as a high volume car, just like the NSX. They aren't looking to make money off of it, they're looking for more brand identification and such to boost sales of their primary cars, such as the Accord. To say that low sales will kill it is incorrect. The S sales as well as any <50k car out there when you compare number built to number sold as a percentage.
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Originally Posted by mbilderback,Sep 16 2004, 02:26 PM
Sorry, no flaming here. But, the S was never made as a high volume car, just like the NSX. They aren't looking to make money off of it, they're looking for more brand identification and such to boost sales of their primary cars, such as the Accord. To say that low sales will kill it is incorrect. The S sales as well as any <50k car out there when you compare number built to number sold as a percentage.
Honda is/was a company of engineers.
S2000 was more to prove that they COULD design an awesome RWD pure sports car. Mission accomplished.
But that's done.
And while they're not looking to "make" money off it, they're not looking to lose money off it either.
I don't think S2000s boost sales of Accords.
Just like I don't think NSXs boosted sales of RLs
If you polled 100 Accord owners, I wonder how many would respond, "That's a HONDA?!!!"
If they wanted "brand identification" they would have advertised the car more.
That they haven't... maybe because it would be a waste of money?
Maybe they built the car to prove that they could. As kind of an anniversary edition of "F.U. Nissan, we could kick your a$$ if we wanted to, we're not just a bunch of enginerds making efficient 4-bangers." But I don't know. It's just my guess.
I don't think we can state the opinion "To say that low sales will kill it is incorrect,"
and sell it as fact.... because the demise of the $90,000 NSX appears imminent.
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Having personally spoken with the designer of the S2000 (reference visit to Tochigi several of us did a while ago) I can tell you a couple details about the S2000. (Not necesarily why Honda management approved it, of course.)
1) The designer - blast, I wish I could remember his name - absolutley loved his S800. He even brought pictures to show us. He wanted a modern version of it.
2) They'll build them as long as we buy them.
1) The designer - blast, I wish I could remember his name - absolutley loved his S800. He even brought pictures to show us. He wanted a modern version of it.
2) They'll build them as long as we buy them.
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From: Alpharetta, GA (ATL)
Originally Posted by mav,Sep 14 2004, 07:28 PM
IMO its doubtful. I think the S2000 will be killed after MY2005. Its not selling too well anymore (at least not locally in Miami), and with all these new sports and GT cars coming out b/w now and 2008, I really don't see how the current S2000 will still be able to compete.
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Honda is wierd though... Take the Civic Si coupe for example made in 99 and 00 for the US. That thing sold like bottled water and then they just took it away. Also the DC2 model Integra Type R that they gave us for 97,98, and oh wait.... SKIP 99, back in 00,01.
They are up to something... My statement above is that it is specualted that Honda likes to discontinue something when it is popular but reached a plateau. Possibly so they can release another vehicle in it's place, keep resale of the vehicle high, not oversaturate the market, not compete with it's own brand brothers, or just to keep pissing us American- Honda enthusiasts off.
My guess is that it will either discontinue or keep going- one or the other, really! If it is here for 06 I hope it is alot better than the current AP2. I won't sell my AP1 for it but if it is alot BETTER (not just different with slight fixes) I will definitely buy again.
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They are up to something... My statement above is that it is specualted that Honda likes to discontinue something when it is popular but reached a plateau. Possibly so they can release another vehicle in it's place, keep resale of the vehicle high, not oversaturate the market, not compete with it's own brand brothers, or just to keep pissing us American- Honda enthusiasts off.
My guess is that it will either discontinue or keep going- one or the other, really!
If it is here for 06 I hope it is alot better than the current AP2. I won't sell my AP1 for it but if it is alot BETTER (not just different with slight fixes) I will definitely buy again. Primate