yeah I have an 00

 

HOLY CRAP! I guess it is good that I cannot sell
my '00 model. My dealer knows that I am rough on my
red version, so if a '01 has a problem, they may try
and blame it on me.

Does Auto-Xing void a warranty?? timed laps, ??

Where the heck were you auto-xing in this cold weather?

Scot

 

Autoxex,
Has American Honda provided any feedback on the problem?
What is the root cause?

 

The same happened last week to a friend of mine with an '01 s2k. He had about 3,000km (1,800 miles) on his car when he heard for the first time this rattling mettalic noise. The Honda dealer in Belgium (Europe) is still trying to find out what the problem is. I will let him know of the #4 cylinder failure just to help the mechanic do his job correctly.

 

Wow, you guys have been busy eh, thanks for all the responses.

Barry, I'll keep you posted on how my dealer is handling the repairs. Perhaps I'll think about the Toda flywheel and new clutch while they have the thing already disassembled.

Y2ks2k, I think that you are having the same problems as the rest of us unfortunately. I would recommend not driving the car anymore. After yesterday, I only started the car to move it into the garage and the sound was much worse than in the morning. I would just park it in a safe place for this evening and get the car flatbedded to the dealer tomorrow immediately. My motor made the rattling noise even without any throttle input, open up the hood and listen to see if the sound is coming from underneath the valve cover, if so then its definitely the #4 cylinder problem. I'm planning to print out the previous posts about this problem:http://www.s2000online.com/forums/sh...?threadid=2673 and take it into the dealer for them speed up the repair.

Scot, I've been autoxing for the past year for the Philly region SCCA which can be found on this website http://www.autox4u.com/phillysnow.htm

It would be nice to have another s2k there, so drop me an email if you want some more details.

 

Your description would be identical to mine except that I called my sound a "metalic tap tap tap" rather than a buzzing or rattling. Mine was obvious at idle, increased to about 4,000 rpm and then got lost in the other noises at 5,000 rpm. Other than the sound, there was no symptom (loss of power, hesitation, roughness).

Insist that they pull all four plugs and check. If all four are normal looking, you're probably okay. The sound is piston slap and oil gets around the rings when there's enough piston slap to be audible, if I understand everything correctly. I think I caught my problem very early. I got it to the dealer within ten miles from when I first noticed it and got the dealer to diagnose it within fifteen miles of when I first heard it.

Here's another hint. My mechanic Don thought it wasn't valve train even before he pulled the valve cover. He listened over the exhaust manifold and thought it was louder there than over the valve cover, thus he thought it was from the cylinder, if I understand him properly.

It would be interesting to get the serial numbers of the short blocks involved and see if they are close. My guess is that they had a casting problem on a run of short blocks--either bad tolerances or a restricted fluid channel.

 

Not to muddy the waters too much... My car is in the shop right now for a host of things: 7.5K inspection, window staying up w/top down, seat belt recall, and lastly a noise very similar to y2ks2k's. My noise only appeared after the 1-2 grind fix. It appears to only happen for even gears (2,4, and I imagine 6th - 4-5K in 6th is a little too fast to test though) is most noticeable in 4th gear between 4 and 6K on deceleration. It mostly parallels the clutch resonance problem others have described... Except, when accelerating through 4-5K rpm in 4th I get a whistle. Almost bad differential noise like, but sounds for all the world like it is coming from the shift knob/front of engine area.

Of course I get the usual bullshit "I'll have to drive another one and see if it makes this sound first" Yeah buddy, every S2K whistles and grrrs like a bad differential, but I'm the only one that complains Oh did I mention that I made my appointment more than a week in advance and when I drooped the car off Tuesday they told me they "probably wouldn't be able to get to it this week." Oh, and no loaner. And no RIDE OFF THE DAMN LOT. Not even an offer. Just a blank stare. $%^& Honda service, and #$%^& Honda; this is my last Honda.

[Edited by Silver S2K on 01-28-2001 at 09:36 PM]

 

You guys are scaring me. I have been all but immune to the Stook problems, aside from the transmission decel "ring" and groans. I have an 01' with 1900 miles on it and it runs flawlessly. As a matter of fact, it seems to get faster and more willing to rev each time I drive it. At any rate, I am very sorry to hear of this problem for you guys, all we can hope for is that the dealer does a decent job on the repair. Keep us posted.

Andrew

 

autoEX, that blows, I hope they fix your car promptly.

But people, you are so quick to jump the gun on this! There have been only THREE reported failures and by looking at the VIN's Honda has already sold nearly 3000, MY 2001 S2K's already. That is a .1% failure rate! I suspect there was a small handfull of engines that got bad parts in assembly.

Lets not jump the gun here and presume that the other 99.9% MY2001 S2K's are bad too.

 

[QUOTE]Originally posted by krazik
[B]There have been only THREE reported failures and by looking at the VIN's Honda has already sold nearly 3000, MY 2001 S2K's already.